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23 hours ago, The Thistle Archive said:
I wanted to know that myself a few years back, so went out of my way to properly research it. Johnny's the top man in league terms:
Most Consecutive Scottish League Appearances
258 - Johnny Jackson (Partick Thistle, GK) 28th August 1926 to 25th March 1933
251 - Doug Smith (Dundee Utd, CH) 19th February 1964 to 18th September 1971
On the 'first class' competitive front (query includes all SFL, SPL, SPFL, Scottish Cup, League Cup, Summer Cup, European, Drybrough Cup and Anglo-Scottish Cup matches) Johnny is still the top man in Scottish football history:Most Consecutive Competitive Scottish Club Football Appearances
288 - Johnny Jackson (Partick Thistle, GK) 28th August 1926 to 25th March 1933
282 - Ally Shewan (Aberdeen, CH) 19th October 1963 to 23rd April 1969The more I look at the numbers, particularly the dates, the more remarkable it is. Undoubtedly an advantage being a keeper, but just imagine playing more than six and a half years without missing a league or cup game - especially given the tackles that players (even keepers) were subjected to in those days.
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20 hours ago, The Thistle Archive said:
HUGE MILESTONE FOR BANNIGAN
● Jack McMillan registers his 100th appearance for Thistle in all competitions. ● It's huge congratulations to Stuart Bannigan who becomes just the 15th Jag in history to reach the 400 appearances mark in 'all competitions' (i.e. major and minor). The club will officially mark the 400 'major' appearances in 2 games time! ● It's just 1 goal conceded in 540 mins (a penalty!) and 3 consecutive clean-sheets for David Mitchell who is hunting down his personal best (4) set during the play-offs last term. ● In all competitions, Thistle go 8 home games without defeat versus Ayr United (2020 to date), matching the joint-club-record previously set from 1930-1937 and 1983-1989. ● Jags go two games without a booking for the first time since September 2022. ● Alas, an unprecedented two-in-one-season 'Grand Slam' is not-to-be for Brian Graham but, having scored in 3 of the 4 league games vs. Ayr United this term, he gets the consolation 'Hogan' joining Aidan Fitzpatrick who did likewise vs. Arbroath this season. ● Kris Doolan's Thistle remain unbeaten in 14 games played in the months of April and May. ongoing sequences: ● 7 competitive games without defeat, 16th Mar 2024 to date. (Longest run since: 11 games, 1st Apr 2023 to 1st Jun 2023. Joint club-record: 16 games, 15th Nov 1975 to 21st Feb 1976 & 30th Sep 2000 to 13th Jan 2001.) ● 29 games in 3rd place (30th Sep 2023 to date), an extension of the club-record for a position outwith outright top or bottom. Overall, it's the longest run since the club-record of 33 games in bottom pace (12th), set between 20th Sep 2003 and 15th May 2004. ● 34 consecutive competitive appearances for Lewis Neilson, 15th Sep 2023 to date, a new personal best. (Longest run since: Steven Lawless - 60 games, 18th Feb 2023 to 6th Apr 2024. Club-record: Johnny Jackson - 313 games, 28th Aug 1926 to 25th Mar 1933.) That 313 games for Johnny Jackson is insane. Reminds me a bit of Cal Ripken over here (baseball), who played in 2.131 consecutive games (162 a season in baseball) without a rest day or injury spell. Does anyone know what the overall record in Scottish football is? I know not every club is lucky to have such a great archive as we do, but just curious….
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Not sure if this is the correct place for this question, but couldn't see a more obvious place, so here goes.
What is the oldest football ground in Scotland?
I was googling it, but couldn't find much of a definitive answer.
By this I mean, a football ground that has been played on continuously since its establishment, that has hosted football the whole time (not rugby, cricket, whatever), and has hosted professional or semi-professional teams. So Juniors would count. And also, the ground is in the same place it was to begin with, or at least overlaps with the original location.
My brief searching suggests it might be Cappielow? But I fully anticipate getting shot down about that.... ( Some sources mention Tannadice, though I don't think it was used by any first class teams in its first few years.)
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1 hour ago, DreamOakTree1 said:
I have to say again I’m very surprised at the modest targets that similar clubs to ourselves have. Did anyone hear Ange Posticoglou’s response to the journalist who asked him if he’s targeting top four?
He said that’s not a specific enough target as you need to aim for first place and see where it takes you.
Contrast that with Derek McInnes saying he wants to reach the Scottish Cup Final. Why not just extend that ambition to winning the cup? Similarly he started each season as Aberdeen Manager by saying he was targeting third place. I just don’t understand that mindset as no-one would criticise him for targeting first and finishing second or third.
I agree with this. While realistically, we all know the likely ceiling for our club in a given year, there’s no harm in saying that your goal is to win each trophy you’re in for. If you don’t think you have any chance at all of winning, why are you taking part in it? Now, the odds might be millions to one, but to paraphrase Dumb and Dumber “there’s a chance!”
Leicester City are the obvious example.
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1 minute ago, Zanetti said:
Surprised to read a few Thistle fans in this thread say they'd like Raith to win the league. Surely if you're being pragmatic, United finishing second (assuming nobody gets promoted through the playoffs) is a bad thing if you've any ambition of kicking on and challenging for the title next season? I would imagine most teams would rather see the back of them, and hope nobody else with that sort of squad and budget gets relegated.
I’m an optimist who assumes we’ll go up alongside Raith.
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1 minute ago, chris1883 said:
That was a pretty brutal game to watch, but there were positives. Firstly, we won. We also defended well (just too deep). Most importantly though - it was a clean sheet... or two league clean sheets in a row. I might be wrong, but is that the first this season?
On a side note, tell me any team who would take that pitch over ours? Voting to ban synthetic surfaces seems absolutely mad when that is a possible alternative.
Looked like a rugby pitch. Maybe that’s what McBeth was thinking too….
Who else is playing on it at the minute? They don’t play rugby on it any more, do they?
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Honestly, while it might sound like heresy to say this, as long as I could be assured that we’ll still make the playoffs, I’d be ok with losing this game. After all I don’t think we can make automatic promotion at this point, and it plainly has more meaning for Raith.
Especially as I’d rather Rovers were promoted than United. I like United well enough (one of my best friends growing up was a United fan) but Raith have been away from the PL for longer.
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1 minute ago, Charles Stiles said:
When he's not involved in the chat, Kenny Miller's standing looking like he's thinking about whether to get a curry or a Chinese on the way home.
Could do both, after all. Got the money I assume.
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13 minutes ago, Fuctifano said:
We've not had too many games this season where we could play all day and not score but that was one of them, Raith defended well but to lose that game one nil on the balance of chances is harsh.
I'm hoping we're saving our good form for the last 5 or 6 games but our calamitous defence and keeper isn't giving much hope.
Ageee with all this. Graham our likeliest looking as usual, but we weren’t at our best today. Player normally quality looked like the ball wasn’t breaking their way. Fitzpatrick a case in point.
Bad form comes and goes, and when it all clicks again we’ll be good. Just hope it’s in enough time that we don’t risk falling out of playoff places.
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23 minutes ago, 0neTeamInGlasgow said:
Sorry sweet cheeks did i upset you?
Blocked.
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1 minute ago, 0neTeamInGlasgow said:
Cool story bro, guess you had to be there...
Don’t be a d***.
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2 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said:
And a new manager.
Hilarious.
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Just now, 0neTeamInGlasgow said:
Neither are Raith, we are a busted flush i am surprised they ain't outta site by now.
I think a sense of perspective is important. It’s a scrappy game, by both teams - sometimes that happens.
Thistle are a team with a number of quality players, particularly going forward, and a decent young manager who’s still learning. We have holes, particularly between the sticks and in our defensive play. But overall we’re a decent side, particularly for the financial investment.
i don’t think the doom and gloom talk is justified, though I understand it’s standard in Scottish football for some reason.
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1 minute ago, chris1883 said:
I have so much respect for Brian Graham - good player and a nice guy. But, is thistles game plan to just get the ball to him?
He holds the ball up better than just about anyone I’ve seen at this level. So not a bad plan.
Was a bit better when we had Tiffoney to spearhead some attacking runs too though.0 -
Mitchell is a bit rough.
Speaking of Rough, I think Alan might be better in goal right now than any of our current crop.
Certainly rather him there than anywhere else around the club….
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Just now, Thistle_do_nicely said:
McBeth hasnt looked out of his depth i dont think, clearly a bit pissed off at how the games been going. Think ref called both fouls right in real time, but aye, fighting chance he'll get a red.
Thought McBeth looked good overall. Lot of skillful touches. The rugby tackling is maybe a bit out with his remit, but sometimes you’ve got to do it when the alternative is to give away a break.
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3 hours ago, oneteaminglasgow said:
As above.
Done. Cheers!
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How does that ‘ignore’ option work again?
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13 hours ago, El Gringo Jag said:
Utter woke pish
Worst thread ever.
This thread is like opening a pack of fruit pastels and only getting green and yellow.
Reading this post is like opening a poke of chips and finding a jobby inside.
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1 hour ago, parsforlife said:
You have been, and its quite weird, you’d have thought at some point someone would realise that nowhere near enough fans are responding with the surname and the majority just hear a deranged lunatic repeating saying the forename with nothing coming back.
I generally agree but 2500-4500 is a massive gap and I certainly would group them differently.
We’ve been pushing 5k home crowd this season which is probably our peak at this level outwith exciting end of season games to potentially go up.
3k-5k is a massive difference in percentage terms.
I find it hard to criticise clubs for lack of crowds as they are all pushing hard to maximise them but we can’t pretend their aren’t differences.
Sure but another way of looking at it is to take 0 as a baseline, and 50k or so (going by the biggest crowds in Scottish football) as the top end. Within those parameters, the variation I was talking about isn’t all that much. Just one way of looking at it.
One additional point - the clubs may be trying within their limits, but I’d say they probably could be more inventive with looking for ways to appeal to potential customers. Even minor league baseball teams over here are streets ahead of any British football teams in putting on a show and incentivising folk to come to games. Now, Scottish football actually attracts a lot of fans per capita (just not compared to some historical periods), but I wonder how much more they could do with better promotional strategies, especially outside the OF.
(I know, football isn’t baseball, and Scotland isn’t America etc etc. I’m sure a lot of purists wouldn’t like it, but it might be good to find a way to appeal to more kids, families, non-traditional football fan demographics, with something more than an appeal to club loyalty)
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1 hour ago, Cardle is Magic said:
Apologies, assumed Thistle were a bigger team than that and got bigger crowds normally.
Who gets significantly bigger crowds though? Obviously the ugly twins, the Edinburgh teams, the Dundee teams, Aberdeen. Beyond that, maybe St Mirren and Motherwell, but mostly just due to being in the top flight. The rest of the teams with respectable crowds are likely just hovering in the 2500-4500 zone. Any variation is likely just due to economic circumstances and club performance/level.
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5 minutes ago, DAFC. said:
Don’t think I have attempted “patter” on this thread to merit that reply, but you do you.
I mean responding to someone’s comment (however you think of it) with a dismissive, and also standardised response. Not really adding much to the conversation.
That’s what I meant, though not an important matter either way.
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Just now, DAFC. said:
That patter’s fucking pish.
Ironic you should say that.
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The idea that you can judge a manager as out of his depth after a few months (during which his club won most of their games and went on a long play-off run) is laughable.
Doolan may or may not turn out to be a decent manager, but he’s doing better than McCall had been at this point, a man who has had a long career managing in Scottish football. He’s also done nothing that would indicate an obvious lack of competence.Is he Pep Guardiola? No. But then again, he doesn’t manage Man City. Overall, seems to me like he’s doing a decent job, so far better in some areas than in others - we’ll see if he continues to grow as a manager. Commenting on his abilities at this point in his career is wasted effort, so I’ll stop right there.
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HUGE MILESTONE FOR BANNIGAN
The Partick Thistle thread
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A UEFA pro coaching license?