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  1. Just now, 0neTeamInGlasgow said:

    Neither are Raith, we are a busted flush i am surprised they ain't outta site by now.

    I think a sense of perspective is important.  It’s a scrappy game, by both teams - sometimes that happens.  
     

    Thistle are a team with a number of quality players, particularly going forward, and a decent young manager who’s still learning.  We have holes, particularly between the sticks and in our defensive play.  But overall we’re a decent side, particularly for the financial investment.

    i don’t think the doom and gloom talk is justified, though I understand it’s standard in Scottish football for some reason.  

  2. Just now, Thistle_do_nicely said:

    McBeth hasnt looked out of his depth i dont think, clearly a bit pissed off at how the games been going. Think ref called both fouls right in real time, but aye, fighting chance he'll get a red.

    Thought McBeth looked good overall.  Lot of skillful touches.  The rugby tackling is maybe a bit out with his remit, but sometimes you’ve got to do it when the alternative is to give away a break.

  3. 1 hour ago, parsforlife said:

    You have been, and its quite weird, you’d have thought at some point someone would realise that nowhere near enough fans are responding with the surname and the majority just hear a deranged lunatic repeating saying the forename with nothing  coming back. 

    I generally agree but 2500-4500 is a massive gap and I certainly would group them differently. 

    We’ve been pushing 5k home crowd this season which is probably our peak at this level outwith exciting end of season games to potentially go up.

    3k-5k is a massive difference in percentage terms.

    I find it hard to criticise clubs for lack of crowds as they are all pushing hard to maximise them but we can’t pretend their aren’t differences.

    Sure but another way of looking at it is to take 0 as a baseline, and 50k or so (going by the biggest crowds in Scottish football) as the top end.  Within those parameters, the variation I was talking about isn’t all that much.  Just one way of looking at it.

     

    One additional point - the clubs may be trying within their limits, but I’d say they probably could be more inventive with looking for ways to appeal to potential customers.  Even minor league baseball teams over here are streets ahead of any British football teams in putting on a show and incentivising folk to come to games.  Now, Scottish football actually attracts a lot of fans per capita (just not compared to some historical periods), but I wonder how much more they could do with better promotional strategies, especially outside the OF.

    (I know, football isn’t baseball, and Scotland isn’t America etc etc.  I’m sure a lot of purists wouldn’t like it, but it might be good to find a way to appeal to more kids, families, non-traditional football fan demographics, with something more than an appeal to club loyalty)

  4. 1 hour ago, Cardle is Magic said:

    Apologies, assumed Thistle were a bigger team than that and got bigger crowds normally.

    Who gets significantly bigger crowds though?  Obviously the ugly twins, the Edinburgh teams, the Dundee teams, Aberdeen.  Beyond that, maybe St Mirren and Motherwell, but mostly just due to being in the top flight.  The rest of the teams with respectable crowds are likely just hovering in the 2500-4500 zone.  Any variation is likely just due to economic circumstances and club performance/level.  

  5. 5 minutes ago, DAFC. said:

    Don’t think I have attempted “patter” on this thread to merit that reply, but you do you. 

    I mean responding to someone’s comment (however you think of it) with a dismissive, and also standardised response.  Not really adding much to the conversation.  
     

    That’s what I meant, though not an important matter either way.  

  6. The idea that you can judge a manager as out of his depth after a few months (during which his club won most of their games and went on a long play-off run) is laughable.  


    Doolan may or may not turn out to be a decent manager, but he’s doing better than McCall had been at this point, a man who has had a long career managing in Scottish football.  He’s also done nothing that would indicate an obvious lack of competence.

    Is he Pep Guardiola?  No.  But then again, he doesn’t manage Man City.  Overall, seems to me like he’s doing a decent job, so far better in some areas than in others - we’ll see if he continues to grow as a manager.  Commenting on his abilities at this point in his career is wasted effort, so I’ll stop right there.

  7. 5 hours ago, I Clavdivs said:

    May would be a killer at Championship level just for his Barnet alone.

     

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    I remember watching May scoring for fun back in his first spell in Perth, about ten years ago now (back when the SPFL put up a good highlights package on YouTube - then they removed the commentary for no reason and it kind of ruined it).  At the time I thought he looked like he’d go on to big things, but it never quite panned out.  Still not a bad player at all, good physical presence, and maybe would make a bigger impact against lower level defences (looking at you, Brian Graham).

     

    Edit:  Also, agreed about the hair - if he doesn’t work out on the field, he can join our Bon Jovi tribute band.

  8. 3 minutes ago, The Thistle Archive said:

    That section that links to Stuart's site is just there for convenience for the Thistle community, but it's nothing to do with The Thistle Archive. Have asked him what's up with it, but no clue. Might need to knock it on the head for now, which is a shame as he's got lots of good scrapbook material gathered.

    Your knowledge off the cuff is very good on that Fulham game!

    starting eleven:
    Mark Crossley
    Liam Rosenior
    Jérôme Bonnissel
    Ian Pearce
    Sylvain Legwinski
    Alain Goma
    Darren Pratley
    Billy McKinlay
    Andy Cole
    Collins John
    Luís Boa Morte

    subs:
    Edwin van der Sar
    Dean Leacock
    Adam Green
    Zak Knight
    Moritz Volz
    Zesh Rehman
    Carlos Bocanegra
    Brian McBride
    Claus Jensen
    Tomasz Radzinski
    Mark Pembridge

    substitutions:
    Liam Rosenior (Moritz Volz, HT); Andy Cole (Brian McBride, HT); Jérôme Bonnissel (Carlos Bocanegra, 70 mins); Collins John (Tomasz Radzinski, 70 mins); Luís Boa Morte (Mark Pembridge, 70 mins); Sylvain Legwinski (Claus Jensen, 72 mins); Billy McKinlay (Zesh Rehman, 77 mins)

     

     

     

    Ah, I couldn’t have said if Van der sar played or not, but I watched the team walk in from their coach, and the abiding memory is of big Edwin being like a clear foot taller than everyone else….

     

    And I’d forgotten about Collins John - the backwards John Collins!

  9. On 05/07/2023 at 05:14, Fuctifano said:

    Yeah, think the only player McCall signed in his second spell who had no experience of Scottish football was Akinola, which iirc was a recommendation from Kenny Moyes via his brother. 

    Best trialist appearance I can think of was Juan Ramon Escalas in that bizarre game vs Fulham where they played a full strength team and we drew 1-1, was almost a case of making sure he signed a contract before he left the ground. Although Armand One looked great that day too. 

    Was that when Van Der Sar was playing for Fulham?  Pretty sure I was at that one (and I didn't make it to many games due to always working when they were on).

  10. 5 hours ago, Fuctifano said:

    I think stadium naming rights in this day and age are one of the easiest sponsorship opportunities.

    They could call it the "Pulling your wire stadium" for all I care if the money is right. I know Dundee's stadium has a sponsor but I couldn't even tell you what it's called (and don't need to know) as I always still refer to Dens Park.

    Think it’s fine as long as the stadium has an established name already.  So that the corporate name doesn’t become the accepted name for everyone.  Etihad etc.  

    Middlesbrough did well with Cellnet Riverside Stadium, so whatever the sponsor, everyone just calls it the Riverside.  
    Arsenal on the other hand, could have gone with Ashburton Grove, or New Highbury, or Queensland Road, or whatever, but missed that chance and now it’s just the Emirates.  Shame, really.

  11. 12 minutes ago, Don Kneelcaster said:

    Yes, well I was thinking of my own personal awareness of those six Glasgow sides from the very early sixties. My dad was the archetypal neutral and he’d open his fixture booklet and say, “Now, I wonder what would be a good game to go to on Saturday.” In those days, there was usually two or three games going on in Glasgow. Before, I became a Jags fan, I’d been to lots of different grounds watching five of those six Glasgow sides (but not Queens Park.)

    ”Losing one more wouldn’t hurt.”
    I felt for a couple of Third Lanark supporters I knew back in the day when the ‘Hi-Hi’ folded. And my uncle had been a keen supporter before he emigrated.  When you’re team gets relegated, that can be upsetting and unpleasant but, when they disappear altogether, that’s something else. I met the recognised authority on Third Lanark Athletic Club, Bert Bell, once at the National Scottish Football Museum, at Hampden Park. A very interesting man to talk to and unlike perhaps some other ex-Thirds fans, he never started to follow any other club after his team disappeared. At the time, the ‘Save The Jags’ campaign began in the late nineties, it looked as if Thistle might be the next Glasgow football casualty. I somehow don’t think any Jags fans back then at that time would have thought “losing one more (Glasgow club) wouldn’t hurt”!

    Agreed.  I would love to see Clyde back in the East End, and back in the higher divisions.  I’d also love to see Thirds resurrected.  
     

    Glasgow had one of the most vibrant football cultures of any city in the world from the 1890s to the 1960s.  It’s still pretty strong, but a shadow of what it was then.  You could look at somewhere like Buenos Aires to see what it used to be like in Glasgow.  Six teams in the top flight, strong coverage in at least four city newspapers, two city-specific cup competitions that were taken fairly seriously and got big crowds, a bunch of attendance records, three huge stadiums and three other pretty large grounds.  Not to mention that European Cup too.

    Thats why I don’t have any problem with QP building themselves up, though I hope they aren’t taking risks with their future, and I wish they’d get that ground finished….

  12. 1 hour ago, Fuctifano said:

    With any 35 year old there is always the prospect of a sharp decline but it does feel like he'll be able to contribute at least off the bench for the next 2 years, not as if his game has ever been around pace anyway.

    Agreed.  I don’t think we have anyone else with as much of an instinct for goal as him (except the guy standing in the technical area, and maybe if we don’t sign anyone else we might see him too!)

  13. 3 hours ago, Mediocre Pundit said:

    One “exciting” thing about next season is that I imagine we’ll see more of the young players get a shot. And by now some of them should be ready - if not then not sure what the point in the academy is?

     

    So as of now (based on potential low-cost re-signings and subject to any new signings / any bids for contracted players) we could line up:

     

    Mitchell

    McMillan, Muirhead, someone, Milne

    Bannigan, MacKenzie, Lawless

    Stanway, Fitzpatrick

    Graham

     

    Clearly no depth, no idea how Stanway would do etc. But not exactly an awful Championship starting XI.

     

    That’s my thinking.  I don’t think this league is particularly tough, as it goes, though the distance from contention to relegation can be alarmingly short.  In other words, with a tactically astute manager and reasonably competent squad, a lot can be achieved.  A lot of the failings of teams in the league can be put down to managers without the quality to get the best out of the players.  Look at McCall/Doolan.  Not saying Doolan is the next Fergie, but at least in this case you could see a clear and obvious step up.  Bring a top level manager into the championship, and you’d see how quickly a mediocre group of players would be playing like world beaters.  
     

    So this season is about a) keeping a competent squad together and augmenting it with some good loans, and b) hoping that Doolan is the difference-maker he seemed to be.

  14. On 04/06/2023 at 17:47, Fuctifano said:

    I don't think there's really any way to spin being in the championship for another year rather than being in the premiership as good.

    Even if we'd gone up and come straight down with a Gretnaeqsue points total we'd have made more cash and Doolan would probably (hopefully) have been given a bit of leeway if it did go tits up whereas now I doubt we'll see Tiffoney Turner or Holt again and we're still in a brutally tough league to get out of. 

    Doolan has done really well though his lack of subs maybe hindered us a bit today, even though he scored his attempt, I didn't really see the logic in keeping Graham on for pens when he's got a terrible record at them and he was totally burst for all of extra time. 

    I have to disagree on the toughness of the league.  Competitive is not the same as tough.  Consider this:  we were pretty crap for decent chunks of the season, and when Doolan came in we improved and narrowly missed automatic promotion despite wasting points most of the first part of the season.  If you can sit on your arse half the season and almost get promoted, it’s not that tough a league….  If Doolan is in charge from the start, I think we would have gone up in first place (though hypotheticals are pointless).  
     

    Note that I’m not saying we will go up easily next season - we won’t have the same squad, and who knows what kind of budget QP and Dundee United will have.

  15. 22 minutes ago, jagsfan57 said:

    Well, with the help of 2 if not 3 VAR decisions. We weren’t great today but it was a stonewall penalty on Docherty, the Graham handball is laughable and Watson’s decision is a maybe.

    Aye, no doubt about that.  We had momentum, after getting the goal - looked likely to get another.  Then they bring everything to a stop to look at a ridiculous handball claim (that County didn’t even seem like they were claiming much for) and then gift them a lifeline that completely changed the narrative of the game.  Not blaming the referee, but for like the millionth time, VAR ruins a perfectly good game.   Though if you’re going to give County a penalty for that with VAR, and not give us one for that trip, then where’s the consistency?

    Better still, call neither of them penalties, and throw the video monitor in the Beauly Firth….

     

    We’ll just have to make sure we go up automatically next season, to avoid this kind of nonsense.  I have faith in Doolan.  If he’d been in charge from the start, we’d have been up automatically this time.

  16. 7 minutes ago, Empty It said:

    Hampden was empty for the last 30 minutes there, don't understand the mentality of leaving games early especially when winning.

    Yeah, I always feel that if I leave I might miss something incredible.  An overhead kick goal from twenty yards out by the keeper, or a good fistfight.  

    Even at baseball games, which are usually a bit longer, I don't leave early, in case something happens that's never happened before.  

    After all, if you've stumped up for a ticket you might as well get your money's worth.  

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