Arsenal till I die

She was the Labour leader in Islington when the Lib Dems got in, 2 terms in a row. Blair and Creagh made Labour unelectable in Islington. Had Corbyn towed the line, he'd have probably lost his seat.

The Blairites: "Labour's next leader needs to be a young Northern woman representing a Leave seat...not THAT one!" The new "wrong kind of"...

"at worst he was an outright supporter of murderous violence to terrorise people to enforce a solution they could not win by elections." That one line sums up your entire post and gives away the entire motivation behind it. Call for NI to stay in the UK=good. The status quo=democracy. Upholding the status quo=upholding democracy. Wanting a UI=bad. Wanting something that isn't the status quo=bad and anti-democracy. Nothing about the electoral rigging that lead to the protests in the 60s. Nothing about the terrorising of people by the Loyalists which the British government colluded with and the way doing so can undermine democracy. Nothing about the countless refugees who had to leave NI just for being Catholics. No, NI was a haven of democracy where people who wanted a United Ireland were free to campaign and vote and win hearts and minds without being shut up by terror! The provos were scum, and there were cases of sectarianism on the Republican side but this was never the end goal, the Loyalists already had what they wanted so why break into people's homes and murder pregnant women who had no views on constitutional affairs just for being Catholic? With intelligence and arms that had been supplied by the British government? And if the Tories are so pro Democracy why try and block referenda in Scotland and NI despite a) Brexit and b) The UI parties having the most seats in Belfast and sharing the popular vote in the 2017 GE in NI? Terrorism never works, almost always sets the cause back and I will call out anyone who says otherwise. I include McDonnell in this and I also include anyone who thinks the threat of nuclear terrorism will keep us safe, or that terrorism in Dresden helped to win us the war. And spare me your Zionist style "not South Africa" crap, I'm not interested. Plenty of black activists have expressed support for ending discrimination in both Ireland and in Palestine, so don't even go there.

I really want us to remain, especially now with the way the Tories are behaving absolutely disgracefully. I also think a Tory No Deal Brexit or Remain is a pretty straight forward choice if you're Labour, no matter how complicated the Remain/Leave issue is generally. However, I can't help thinking back to the way the party behaved during the Scottish referendum. It's absolutely right the M.P's should be expected to sign up to whatever Labour's policy is in terms of what goes on in Parliament, whether or not to call a referendum, what way to vote on the bill if another party puts a bill forward, etc. I would include this in Scotland - even though I want independence and I would want the party to vote in favour of a referendum, I would respect the position of the leader. However, once it gets put to the voters, I can't help but feeling that the party should be a broad church (ironic the most rabid Brit Nats in the party use that phrase to justify expelling Foo Fighters fans and spouses of Green Party members) enough to not arm twist Labour politicians into silence or even worse being forced to say things they don't agree with. I guess some would argue that the best of both worlds would be an unshackled Labour government, although the Tories can come back in. To that, people might say they're against Brexit but want Labour to be in charge of us leaving. It's complicated...

Fact or propaganda? People working is a good thing. People working is a bad thing. More people have jobs. Less people have jobs. Someone without a job is unemployed. Someone not on the dole isn't unemployed.

To stop these things being undone, for starters. Although consolidation on its own doesn't work. As the old saying goes, "the less left wing the Labour government, the more right wing the next Tory government". Anyway, if there's no point in socialism does that mean there's no point to the SNP? Sod it I'm gonna skip the answer and answer it already - if there's no point in socialism is there a point in independence?

I worked at Bristol Laboratories last year. The corners I saw people trying to cut there were shocking. There were people who did the best they could to stop it happening and I'm sure they'd be happy to back me up. They've lost one of their licences and it's up in the air whether or not they get it back. Would your ex be interested? p.s - I'm talking team leaders and managers being bent, not just a few people at the bottom who don't know what they're doing.

This is the greatest Tory government we've had in my life time, and I've lived under Thatcher, Major and Cameron. May's incompetence is their greatest asset, the less things they are able to make worse the better. Only someone who thinks nothing but Brexit matters would regard this government as worse, and I voted Remain. In fact, if it wasn't for these Tory/Blairite twats we would never have had a Leave vote in the first place!

Maybe you should f**k off and join the Lib Dems if you want us to choose between the same old right wing shite.

S/he is right. Whether or not Labour fulfil that point or not is another question.

I'm more scared of women and babies dying in childbirth myself, but each to their own.

I lived in Nuneaton for 2 years, and in New Arley (in the North Warwickshire borough and the Nuneaton constituency for a further 8). The Tories offer absolutely nothing to the under 50s in Nuneaton or North Warwickshire. Nuneaton is an absolute dump. The town centre has a worse congestion problem than most cities including on a sunday, and in the middle of the day on a week day. Just about all the roads going onto the ring road (which runs right through the town centre) have been blocked off leading to this mess. The buses all go via the town centre, leading to commuters sitting in congestion on a bus in a town centre they don't even need to be in. Away from the town centre, there is nothing but houses and flats, no jobs and barely any amenities. Strangely, out in the villages all the buses go to Nuneaton even in places half way between Nuneaton and Coventry, which is far better for jobs and services. Add to all that, the fact that 13 years of New Labour made Labour a toxic brand and created voter apathy. Labour lost Nuneaton council in 2008, under Brown who is basically a Blairite just after he scrapped the 10p tax band. The under 50s will not end up voting Tory in Nuneaton and North Warwickshire, or nationally. Unlike the oldies, we face a rising pension age which the dementia age is not keeping up with, and social media for all its ills, has exposed the establishment but many over 50s don't use it. However, the under 50s aren't going to suddenly stop using it when they pass a certain age. Even before social media, from 1983 onwards the age brackets have voted how they have pretty much every election since, all the evidence debunks the myth that a) Tory voters didn't use to vote Tory and that b) people who don't vote Tory will end up voting Tory. How many people in what age group vote may vary, but the passage of time will trump that. And to suggest that Labour hasn't been targeting voters of all age brackets and all kinds of areas of the country is laughable. In Corbyn and Thornberry's borough, last time I checked the only seat that wasn't Labour was green but I guess Labour are dog shit at the local level eh? In fact the worst Labour councils are the most Bitterite - Coventry tried to take Corbyn to court to stop him being on the ballot paper as sitting leader, after doing all they could to screw over a) Coventry City and b) Wasps fans by letting their team do an M.K dons. I must say, your post is full of insults and you won't win the argument with such immature behaviour. I can't even be arsed to red your post as I'm sure you will mine, but my life time ambition isn't to have a popular score on an internet message board.

Labour do seem to go a bit more ahead in the polls after each of these smears.

Not every area, every region.

I suggest you stop reading the media narrative on Northern England. I'm Islington North born and bred, voted Remain etc. Every region of England voted Leave, but it's ok and not racist for a Tory voting region to, right? Most Leave voters were actually southern and middle class. I lived in the Midlands for 14 years and have lived in the North for 2, it is a far more tolerant place than Tory Warwickshire.

It is if you're a Rangers fan. Wanting a United Ireland makes you an IRA sympathiser and don't get me started on the lefties!

Crook are safe! Really excited for next season now, their record at home after the new manager came in was about 50/50 and most of those games were against promotion chasers.

It's really hard to say because of the lack of information but it's not uncommon, only 1 or 2 ended up going down last season. Someone who I believe is player/assistant manager requested me on facebook and has just put a rather cryptic status that somethings are just not meant to be. My options are to either butt into someone's status who I've never met in person, ask again on the group when I'd already got an answer (don't know yet) or do nothing and wonder.

Someone, whether it be the Northern League, the National FA or a more regional FA, has had the bright idea of not deciding how many teams get relegated from Northern League Division 2 until this summer. So Crook Town are in the position of having played all their games but still not knowing if they're safe or not. Madness.

Good point, I hadn't really thought of it this way before. I've always been in favour of a straight once home, once away format but I hadn't considered the added bonus of giving the teams outside the OF a better chance. If that leaves not enough games then maybe make the cups 2 legged or grouped, or something.

UEFA has killed it by imposing on FAs who can qualify from what competition. We already have a very good knockout championship in Scotland already, a few years ago Hibs won the final against Rangers to take the title. The problem is UEFA dictating whether or not the winner can qualify for the Champions League. Still, when the clubs had a few years to change the voting structure and didn't, that's a bit of an own goal isn't it?

Good for you. And for those of us who do have issue with being called nationalists?

I like the idea of a village league. There's no buses where I live on sundays, a far cry from growing up with the tube and double deckers.

I don't see the point of mergers. Even a happy medium would be ground sharing...

I'm thinking of the Old Firm's boycott to any changes, is it still 2 votes against and the proposal is rejected?