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The Saintee

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  1. 2 hours ago, PauloPerth said:

    In my grief I mistakenly posted this in the Hearts match thread..

     

                                    Mannus

    Mackay           Anderson          Wright          Easton

    O'Halloran     Millar       Dunne       Wotherspoon

                    Maclean          May

     

    One more and it's over half the team gone. 

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    You can include Watson and Paton though!

  2. 2 minutes ago, dorlomin said:

    They come from men. They were turned into the White Walkers by the Children of the Forest. There is nothing to suggest their power is linked to north of the Wall specifically. They were certainly powerful in the War for the Dawn that was fought way below where the Wall now stands. The Wall was raised to keep them out of the world of men (and perhaps to limit the spread of civilised men north). Whether they are powerful when the cold comes or just bring the cold with them is an open question. 

    Its not the presence of The Others that raises the dead but an act of magic by them. They cannot move south of the Wall so they cannot reach there.

     

    Yet. 

    I know that and have already posted that. But after the War they seemingly retreated to the Land of Always Winter. They can't cross The Wall yet because of the magic used to build it apparently.

    When we first see a Wight no magic is explicitly used. Royce simply dies fighting one. This is the same for Othor who rises to attack Mormont.

    The point you raise about Tormunds son is a good one. He dies North of The Wall. Not in combat with a Walker and not raised directly by a Walker or presumably Tormund would have mentioned it.

    The only Wights we see are people/animals who have died on the Northern side of the Wall. So it takes the influence of the Walkers to raise Wights.

    It is maybe a good clue that an unnatural cold caused by the presence of The Others killed Torwyn.

    That's what I mean. They can't leave yet and are most powerful North of The Wall.

  3. 16 minutes ago, dorlomin said:

    You seem to have made up a rule no one else knows about. The Others raised the dead before the Wall was built, they have raised from the dead, people they did not kill. They seem to need to be nearish the corpse but likely reanimated a dead Ranger who was the other side of the Wall (the one who attacked Mormont in Castle Black).

    Do you have a source for your rule (what ever it is)?

    The Others come from beyond The Wall and are currently most powerful in that realm. They can't, as yet, cross The Wall. They can resurrect people/animals as Wights directly. People who die North of The Wall generally seem to rise as Wights due to the presence of The Others in the region which is why the Wildlings burn their dead.

    The Ranger that attacked Mormont died beyond The Wall and was one of Benjens men. Now we know that they were attacked by The Others. The men who died in battle at Winterfell are not near The Others or their magic so haven't risen as Wights.

  4. 7 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

    Why did Ygritte ask John Snow to burn her body then?

    It's standard for the Wildling dead to be burned. Because they have lots of experience of seeing resurrection and they fear it happening.

  5. 7 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

    I think the fact that Sweary tennis champ Jeff Tarango doesn't know what the old firm is, probably needs some context. On second thought, perhaps it doesn't.

    He was on as a guest(about Andy Murray obviously) and they were seeing if an American knew about the OF. It was a scientific study to gauge the global appeal/knowledge of the OF.

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