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2 minutes ago, Busta Nut said:
A load of votes on this.Have seen quite a few polls like this and the answer has always been around the 90% mark…
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Lovely new end VAR banner on display at our game yesterday. Clearly visible on the highlights.
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Could see this being a draw. No doubt Shinnie back in but I would prefer to us continue without him starting.
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6 minutes ago, Bobby_F said:
VAR gave Aberdeen a 97th minute equaliser against St Mirren earlier in the season after correctly awarding Aberdeen a penalty.
And it gave Aberdeen what I'm sure felt like a last minute winner.
Sadly VAR then failed to see that the 'goal' should have been ruled out - which would have given Saints fans a moment to talk about for years to come.
Needed to wait till the next home game against Aberdeen for last minute, talk about for years, drama.Indeed. But how would you have felt if a few minutes later the ref had his hand in the air signalling the goal was offside?
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6 minutes ago, Kyle Reese said:
The biggest two arguments against VAR appear to be:
1) Referees and other officials have been exposed as either completely incompetent or corrupt.
2) It spoils the flow of the game.
The first one is a ludicrous reason to get rid of it. It should be a reason to revamp and totally revolutionise the standard of officiating.
The second one is no different to a goal being called back for a referees decision in the run up.
VAR is not the problem. The problem is the sub-standard cowards running the show.
Many of us attend the football for the moments you remember and talk about for years to come. Celebrating a last minute winner for example. So for us VAR very much is the problem as there is now always that doubt about whether the goal will stand.
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1 hour ago, DukDukGoose said:
Not to be a dick, but do you attend games?
I've not spoken to one regular attendee who'd like to keep it.
Same. I have heard folk at away games saying it is their last season solely because of VAR.
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Still nobody had any useful reply from their club?
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37 minutes ago, craigkillie said:
Which aspects do you think are fixed costs which wouldn't be reversible savings? A massive chunk of the money is mostly paying for the extra officials, the cameras (which you'd surely happily keep anyway), the rental of office space in a business park on the outskirts of Glasgow. The only sunk cost is surely the video screens and the branding.
Would they have a contract for the offside “technology?”
Either way it needs binned.
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Where is the action from the fans owned clubs in Scotland?
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7 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:
There will come a day when football uses AI to genuinely measure all this stuff, won’t there?
That would be better than the current situation since surely it would become instant as the technology improves.
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Bin it completely.
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2 minutes ago, Pizzo said:
Admittedly it was the right call but that disallowed goal in the Coventry game scunnered me.
VAR is killing the game for match going fans.
It is not even the right call for me. Not clear and obvious. Linesman gave it onside.
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What just happened in the FA cup tells you all you need to know about VAR.
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9 hours ago, HibsFan said:
What is happening today in England with the FA Cup replays backlash is what should’ve happened up here with VAR, except each of our clubs are filled with self-interested wankers who don’t want to admit that they fucked it massively by not consulting the fans first.
Yes. No club has yet come out and stated they want it scrapped despite it costing them a lot of money and losing them customers. It simply doesn’t make business sense.
Calling for “improvements” to VAR is not good enough as the technology simply isn’t there to improve it in any meaningful way. We are still going to be waiting a few minutes to measure offsides down to millimetres for example.
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See an article on the BBC about recruiting a new VAR head of referees…
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On 24/03/2024 at 13:50, Zamora Fan said:
Nice work to get some momentum going, @HibsFan @VincentGuerin and all. I've sent just a couple of pars to Saints making clear I think it should be scrapped, not tweaked, and saying they will lose my money if they continue to back VAR. Took about 10 mins max.
I've long wondered about the viability of doing a proper, representative poll of Scottish top-flight season ticket holders. Having some data to point at would be very useful I think — I suspect most would say it isn't working, and maybe at this stage you could just about get, say, a narrow plurality who think it should be scrapped altogether (though I might be being pessimistic: maybe 80% want it scrapped! If that was the case finding out might force some hands ..) If you asked whether fans would consider binning their season tickets if VAR continued, that would be a good way of making the point about lost income to clubs ... especially as I imagine no one is giving up their season ticket if VAR got scrapped.
The problem is, polls are expensive. A poll of season ticket holders would be especially expensive to organize since there representatively aren't that many in Scotland. But polling companies often do freebies for media outlets for the sake of the free publicity ... so if any pollsters are reading, a Scotland only, season ticket only poll would make you a national topic of conversation for weeks. I imagine those at the top of the game in Scotland reckon our opinions will roughly line up with those of the weirdo English premier league fans — YouGov found in October that only 16% of them would scrap it. I think they're wrong.
We do have this from November, but to me that looks like an internet survey rather than a representative poll https://scottishfsa.org/the-2023-var-survey/ Those are easy to ignore.
Any luck with a reply?
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Would be good if we could get some more similar banners in the coming weeks.
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14 minutes ago, Pizzo said:
I didnt buy my season ticket this year purely because of VAR. Mainly due to that considine handball at Rugby Park last season.
Still went every week but I want the option to bin it.
Nice anti VAR banner on display from the fcu at Perth today.
Any pictures of this one?
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4 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:
Said no match going fan liked it and he wasn't getting a season ticket due to it.
It simply doesn’t make business sense for clubs to continue backing it. Making the experience far worse for your customers.
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Heard there was a Motherwell fan speaking sense on the radio today?
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On 11/04/2024 at 13:40, Pens_Dark said:
If there's ever a time to do it, it's off the back of a statement like that from Aberdeen. I will be writing to my club today to reinforce that point. Who knows, maybe we could sort our pitch out with the money we save....
Good work. I hope you get a response.
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Genuinely interested to see what tweaks they come up with considering the technology available is unlikely to change. Instead of doing the sensible thing and binning it, they are surely likely to claim they have improved VAR before next season starts.
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It was about time some of the other clubs got involved. Surely St Johnstone have to be next.
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Urgently needs binned.
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Chasing VAR out of Scotland
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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Genuinely interested what the people replying “VAR isn’t the problem, the operators are” think is going to improve, particularly with the technology Scottish football can afford.