Beenzon-Toste

No what I mean is here come some more Juniors haters to blindly back you up.

It's ok Peter, the cavalry's arrived.

Yep, still stirring it. Ever since you've overthrown the committee at Glencairn you just have to keep on about how bad an idea it is for anyone to even consider staying with the SJFA. Probably some people at your own club not convinced yet?

Still stirring it, I see.

Oh, look. Just what we need to see us through lockdown. A thread about 'Summer Football'. Just like the other 476 we've already had.

When will people get it? The Regions and the SJFA are not one and the same.

But, if you're not taking up SJFA membership for next season, surely Broughty will get awarded the tie?

Nah!! I'm on the wine now, and I love everyone.

That is what I'm suggesting. I just cannot see the benefit to be gained from promoting a known lie. Something that the promoter knew with inside knowledge that it had zero chance of going anywhere.

I know I'm going to hate myself in the morning, but for once I am going to agree with Burnie.

Sorry mate, I'm not stupid and I don't believe you are either. You just don't seem to grasp what is being asked. I'm fully aware of what the 'ham-fisted' advice was. I'm not disputing that he told the clubs to vote for option Z. You claim he lied when he said that the LL was in favour of it. Which I believe he did. So, please, just for once, take of your Pyramid tinted glasses and think about it for a minute. Why would he say that? Why, if he knew it was lies, would he deliberately set himself up for ridicule? What could he possibly hope to gain?

You've explained nothing. I know what the Options were. Everyone knew what the options were. I understand why the LL would not be in favour of Z. But the question asked was why would the WRSJFA try to lie to the clubs if they already knew that going back to the PWG with Option Z was a non starter? Why tell a lie when you know you're going to be found out?

Please explain to me how the WRSJFA thought that lying about option Z would benefit them if they knew it was a lie from the outset. Why would they put it to the clubs if they knew that it couldn't possibly happen? What could they gain?

What 'massive shift'? Petrie said from the start not to bring conferences back to the SFA. The LL ignored that and told the clubs that conferences will be accepted. The LL denied that they would cherrypick, yet here we are. The WRSJFA have been pilloried on various social media platforms with accusations of lying to the clubs, yet here we are.

Reading between the lines here. But it looks to me that a conference call with Darvel, Blantyre and Cumbernauld represented agreed to go with a 20 team top division, whilst the other call decided that was not acceptable. Darvel threatens legal action and the WOSFL cave in. WOSFL goes to SFA and begs for a 20 team division in at tier 6 without a mandate. What happens if Shotts, or any of the other clubs that feel betrayed, decide to take legal action?

He'll need a new sidekick as Redmond's team have said they're leaving the Juniors.

My arse! You knew exactly what you were doing. What was informative about your reply?

You know exactly why it's a problem. You saw another opportunity to have a go at the 'Juniors'. Everyone knows that the WRSJFA will not exist next season, he was asking what it meant for the teams in his current division. But you're so intent in ingratiating yourself to your new Lords and Masters, that you had to have a pop. Probably helps with your bid to be their choice of leadership in the new WOSFL. But it's you and people like you that have some fans wondering what they've got involved in.

And again when Clydebank were there.

How long do you think that would last without the West? How long do you think a sponsorship would last without the West? The people running the clubs in the East and North are not shortsighted and would see that without the West it would all fade away.

Can't see turkeys voting for xmas. Excluding the WOSFL from the Scottish Junior Cup would bring about its demise.

Hooray. Someone has actually got it.

LL - Want a tier 6 in the West of the country. WRSJFA - Want a tier 6 in the West of the country. LL - Want a minimum of 12 teams to get started but will accept more. WRSJFA - Want all 63 WR teams in but will accept more. LL - All teams will be members of the WOSFL and play in the leagues and cups of the WOSFL. WRSJFA - All teams will be members of the WOSFL and play in the leagues and cups of the WOSFL. They may also retain membership of the SJFA and be able to play in the Scottish Junior Cup if they wish to do so. Yes, it's clear that Gordon Ronney and the WRJ's dropped their pants and got shafted.

I asked the question nicely. What's it to him? His club has never accepted that they were Juniors, and they couldn't wait to leave the Association that gave them a lifeline. So they've decided to leave the Juniors? Who cares? I don't think anyone in the Juniors does. So why do they care so much about what they're leaving? Scared they've made the wrong decision?

Looks like you've been taking lessons from your mentor. Waffled on, said nothing and avoided the question. Well done you.