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8 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said:
Did an unofficial vote not happen couple of years back with a mass boycott? Why is this one different?I think the previous referendum was held to demonstrate support, presumably to try and get Spain to play ball. If the result is Yes this time, then Catalonia will actually declare independence.
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Really worrying seeing the police raiding printers and newspapers searching for referendum material. Makes me wonder where the Spanish state will draw the line. Surely this intimidation is in violation of the EU right to self-determination?
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Two by elections yesterday:
Cardonald by-election result :
Labour 48.6% (+10.1)
SNP 36.7% (-7.5)
Conservatives 10.3% (-1.7)
Greens 2.7% (+0.2)
Liberal Democrats 1.5% (n/a)
Scottish Libertarians 0.2% (n/a)Fortissat by-election result :
Labour 38.5% (+2.0)
A Better Britain - Unionist 23.3% (+12.2)
SNP 20.6% (-8.4)
Conservatives 11.5% (-1.8)
Independent - Cefferty 5.0% (-5.1)
Greens 0.7% (n/a)
UKIP 0.5% (n/a)I'm starting to come round to the unionists point of view. Maybe Scotland is too stupid for independence.
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Then I'm clearly missing something
What was the point of this statement?
13 hours ago, strichener said:If a foreign national wishes to make the UK their home then they are quite welcome to apply for citizenship to demonstrate this.
Oh, and EU citizens are not eligible to vote in UK general elections.
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3 hours ago, strichener said:
Only it isn't semantics, it was the very heart of JLD's argument. Every UK election extends beyond UK citizenship for the moment.
I think the heart of his argument was to give an example of where a UK vote (and one that was almost universally praised for its conduct) included people who did not have UK citizenship.
It was your contention that UK elections should only allow UK citizens to vote and that any foreigners who wanted to take part in our democracy should take up UK citizenship before getting that chance. So, here's the implicit question - Do you think that non-UK citizens who were eligible for the Scottish referendum (Commonwealth, ROI and EU citizens) should have been excluded, and the franchise limited to UK nationals only?
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JLD, I think you are absolutely correct in your first point that the 2014 Scottish Independence referendum was indeed an example of where the voting franchise was extended beyond a requirement for UK citizenship. But the statement 'Anyone over 18 living there over a year could vote' is not right - there was a citizenship requirement as Strichener has pointed out, just not a UK only one.
You've kind of given him an easy escape route on semantics.
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1 minute ago, Baxter Parp said:
Was he not registered to vote?
Don't know about that, but he is not a citizen of the Commonwealth, ROI or EU, so he was not eligible.
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I think he is right based on (d), is he not? One of my friends who has lived in Scotland all his life but was born in the US did not get to vote.
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Caught out lying about another anti-racism charity. Seems to be a bit of a pattern emerging.
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Monica Lennon must be fair fizzing at Gordon Brown trying to claim credit for all her hard work.
I'm expecting Corbyn to come out and tell us the Scottish Government should build a third bridge any time now.
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1 hour ago, Jmothecat2 said:
We are unlikely to win any of the Tory seats in Scotland. We should and do use our resources campaigning in Tory held target seats in the rest of the UK but I see no obvious gains to be had in Scotland from the Tories. There are about five or six SNP held seats where their majority over us is less than 1,000. Why wouldn't we try to campaign to win those seats more than trying, almost certainly in vain, to win Ayr (I'm not sure if this is the top Scottish Tory held seat but I'm pretty certain it's there or there about) where we are quite far behind?My constituency, Aberdeen South was Labour from 1987 to 2015 with only a single break when it went Conservative from 1992-1997. Why is this not a target seat for you?
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Here's the star of that Vice report blubbering like a baby. My heart bleeds for him.
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All this statue crap is just an excuse for fascists to hold a rally.
There were two sides in Charlottesville, one carrying swastika flags and chanting 'blood and soil', and EVERYONE ELSE. There can really be no ambiguity - pick your side. If you are trying to protest moral equivalence, you're fooling nobody - we can all see what side you are really on.
As for Nazism not being a real problem, I would normally agree except for the fact that the fucking president of the USA is giving them his tacit support.
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2 minutes ago, Baxter Parp said:
Don't be silly they're going with patients stuck in wards
And baby boxes bad.
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Frankie Boyle hit the nail on the head; our Brexit negotiators are the sort of people who would end up paying full price for a DFS sofa.
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Oil is a terrible burden though. It is only thanks to the largesse and broad shoulders of the UK that we are able to sustain an industry that is costing us hundreds of millions of pounds every year.
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9 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:
Nothing really. They had already lost the case in the High Court and HMRC stubbornly refuses to actually bring charges of tax evasion so it all boils down to a tax dispute. No prosecutions against officers of Rangers or Murray Group.
Rangers (RIP) now have an even bigger creditor bill and the taxi company and face painters now get less money.
It was always my concern, a deep rooted nagging based on the corruption that seems to be systemic within the top level of our football governance, that BDO were somehow going to manage to funnel the pot of money they have back into the hands of precisely the people who created the situation in the first place.
I think this finally kills off that possibility for good.
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It's good news and a welcome relief that the MSM don't have yet another stick to beat us with, but ultimately the Scottish government has no more claim over this upturn than it would have culpability for a down-turn. Holyrood simply does not have the economic levers to have that kind of influence. It is interesting that the article highlights the Dalzell steel plant though - that is one example that the Scottish government can point to where it's policy has made an unquestionable positive impact.
That BBC news page is a sight to behold
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Maybe, finally, we can purge the SPFL / SFA of it's rotten core.
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It's more than a little duplicitous to present the Yes vote split like this.
What would the results look like if the possible answers were 'Yes', 'Not for a generation', 'Not for a lifetime', 'NEVER - WATP!' ?
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1 minute ago, Lex said:
Delicious amount of seethe she causes amongst Labour and SNP supporters.
Future PM material for sure.
Endlessly repeating vacuous sound-bites didn't work out to well for the current incumbent.
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2 minutes ago, jmothecat said:
She was directly talking about and presumably to voters who wanted to beat the SNP. She conceded the point that Labour aren't best placed in certain constituencies to make the point that we are in most in the central belt. This is in no way encouraging voters to vote Tory.So what exactly DID her message say to 'voters who wanted to beat the SNP' who were not in the central belt (or other areas where Labour were best placed)?
There is a clue in there if you look hard enough.
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The first sentence that you quoted there clearly sets out the premise of her argument - To beat the SNP. Next she points out that although Labour are in pole position in most constituencies, there are places where the Conservatives are better placed.
If you can't work out the implications of this, then I'm guessing you didn't do to well at English interpretation at school.
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Catalonia
in The Politics Forum
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https://twitter.com/adolbag/status/907325646761811969
Stunning stuff. I'm jealous of their fervour - wish Scotland was as passionate.