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51 minutes ago, glensmad said:
The solution is glaringly simple.
Play it in April or May.
We know who the teams are, get a date and venue and get it played on grass.
There is no reason that is has to be the 1st weekend in June.
I bow to those who know better but...
128 teams- 2nd week in Sept
64 teams - last week in Sept
32 teams - 2nd week in Oct
16 teams- last week in Oct
QF - 1st week in March
SF last week in March/ First week in April
Final - Last week in April
Less chance to catch up and all play at the same time, I admit, but in better weather months (usually), should be OK. I m sure others could have better and more workable ideas, but we have probably already given this matter more thought than those who wear a blazer and are supposed to!
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2 hours ago, gogsy said:
Pipe down son , Juniors will go to where they're told to go and will be grateful for it.
Who rattled your pram, squirt?
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3 hours ago, foreverarover said:
The away fans would also agree at Cappilow that the stand is shite, seating awful with little space. The stewards are also bellends.
Blantyre v Bo'ness in 2016 satisfied any curiosity I might have had about NDP...BUT at least the issue appears to be sorted. Note to farts in a suit,: You have a year to sort something better out. Might be an idea to start now, if you are at all bothered about the Juniors' showpiece game
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52 minutes ago, Killiepiyo said:
One of the biggest upsets live on UK telly.. is it any wonder they didn't reply (if true)? Lol
So not just me thinking exactly that then!
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15 hours ago, Jock Tamson said:
Lochee Utd out the Scottish but wrap up the league in same day.
Broughty were abysmal today.I'm not sure, as neutral, I'd say they were abysmal, but a very frustrating day for all associated with them, I'm sure. I'll just say that some of the visitors' 'time management' skills might have been better policed by the officials and leave it there. At least you didn't get drenched, which looked a nailed on certainty earlier in the day.
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22 minutes ago, Bellsdale Boy said:
Was at the QF between Pollok and Talbot at Newlandsfield, crowd of around 1700-1800 iirc, and there's not a chance it could host a Junior Cup Final. Kick Off was held up slightly to allow that size of crowd in, no or very basic (to be kind) toilet facilities, no parking etc etc.
Final should be held in early May on an agreed date with 2 or 3 Grounds picked at start of Season which can then be selected from depending on finalists (East vs East, West vs West, West vs East).
Getting to March / April and not knowing when or where Final is to be held is ridiculous. Holding it on an Astroturf is shoddy as well.
Has it reached the point yet where people would rather be told about a venue they're less than happy with than not be told at all? OK, the final being when it is will always mean there are issues but an inability to make a decision seems rather poor. Having the showpiece fixture played on a carpet is a crying shame really, but if it takes agreeing to a carpetball final just to get things sorted then just get on with it.
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1 hour ago, Jock Tamson said:
What a funny thing to take the huff about.
If the team you sponsor don't patronise your establishment, it can seem a bit ungrateful...but if it's the opposition it seems an odd thing to get grumpy about to me.
1 hour ago, Jock Tamson said:What a funny thing to take the huff about.
bit
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1 hour ago, santheman said:
The main drain was replaced by the council in the close season which sorted out all the drainage problems in previous seasons. Probably one of the best pitches around now.
I guessed something must have happened, as to go from notoriously dodgy to what I saw yesterday seemed unlikely without intervention.
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13 minutes ago, Kennie said:
My info from the game was that it was abandoned due to the pitch becoming unplayable. No mention of an injury and that was confirmed by the referees report.
And yet Albert and Lugar managed to get their game finished not too far away ...and quite a decent watch it was too.
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On 17/10/2018 at 16:00, LongTimeLurker said:
It's not all that different from what happened in England when the Southern and Isthmian Leagues wound up having overlapping catchments after the Isthmian league joined despite not being involved as a feeder initially when the Alliance Premier was formed. The good thing is that an all in pyramid finally appears to be happening. Hopefully the junior cup will be rejigged to be all in for tier 6 and below.
Can't wait for the farts in suits to have a meeting to decide what to call the competition, so as not to offend the sensitive.
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7 hours ago, gogsy said:
Missed this post last might as I was part of a crowd of about 250 watching an u-20s game. Meanwhile in the East Juniors bottom of the North league Coupar Angus have just signed Gary Kenneth. If that's the future for junior football, folk are asking the wrong question.
Anyway got to go, got to watch my team get pumped by East Stirlingshire.
Looks like the tweet about Gary Kenneth was deleted, either that or I was imagining that.
To be fair, CA competed well in the game against Arbroath Vics last week, but having seen them lose away at Forfar Albion the week before, these might be the only two sides they have even a slight chance of taking points off.
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1 hour ago, Blackie Gold said:
He's on the Kelty forum stirring it. They have enough to contend with after their manager resigning due to being embarrassed about Gogsy's posts.
And yet still finds the time to fail miserably to antagonise, dismiss a region that has done more for football than he could achieve, even in his most delusional state. The problem with trying to be a bully on the internet is that it just comes across as...well...laughable. Still, as long as he's happy.
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8 hours ago, Jason King said:
#rattled
Step up to the plate champ, you are just embarrasing yourself here. Surely you can do better than the utter filth you've been posting over the last week or so.
As for the topic - well the Juniors are dead. All of the quality in the East is gone, no one cares about the North and clubs in the West have been having meetings regarding the setting up of a West senior league for next season. This time next year we'll all be senior, apart maybe from the stuck in the past mobs in Ayrshire, and the only difference that most people will see is the opportunity for progression and the lack of TJ.
Happy times and places are just around the corner for the West.
Hmmm 'utter filth' eh? Still, you're entitled to your opinion, however random. You seem ecstatic at the premature death notices for a brand of football, almost as if you've got shares in the turkeys vote for Christmas circus. Those 'stuck in the past mobs' as you put it, are as entitled to their opinion every bit as self appointed ringmasters and the fact that opinion doesn't mirror yours does not make it right any more than it makes it wrong.
'Nobody cares about the north'- no doubt a comment based on endless , in depth research, rather than a superiority complex generalisation?
No doubt those who don't follow the turkey trot will always be ridiculed by those who think their brave new world is paved with gold, although something tells me being called 'stuck in the past mobs in Ayrshire' on a warm and cosy internet forum won't worry the real people with real lives from that neck of the woods too much.
If you tell yourself it often enough, you'll believe the juniors is dead. Why it matters to you, I haven't a clue and why clubs who don't want to join the circus get under your skin so much is a mystery too.
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2 hours ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:
Racist IMHO
foul mouthed and disruptive opinion and tiresomely ' I'm a victim, me' one at that.
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2 hours ago, Jason King said:
Oh christ Froggie, thats clearly gone flying over your head but you continue lashing out if it makes you feel superior.
In the present company, feeling superior is inevitable. Why don't you turn your legendary incisive wit and knowledge to the topic under discussion instead?
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6 hours ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:
f**k up ya dick
And along comes a 'butt' and the bottom feeders are in residence once again. By name and by nature, it seems.
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17 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said:18 hours ago, froggie said:Despite the angry bottom feeder comment that " it could be a while", I am happy to tell you what I enjoy. For the benefit of the stupid, notice I said 'I ' so the response is personal to me.
I enjoy the fact that I am able to meet people who have watched a certain level of football for years and are knowledgeable about not only their team, but the history of the game at Junior level, I enjoy kick off times being pretty standardised ( with the odd exception) rather than fannying with them as a sop to a handful of obsessed anoraks who'd watch two dogs with a beach ball as long as they could scribble feverishly in a notebook and watch four other sets of dogs the same day.
I enjoy the fact that Junior football lets people decide if a railed pitch and little else is adequate for them, as opposed to a fart in a suit dictating that lights, over-egged amounts of cover and plenty of other non- essentials are declared essential.
I enjoy the fact that the Junior game takes me to places it is unlikely I would visit otherwise. That may not be exclusive to the Junior game, but the 'greed is good' brigade will shed no tears over the smallest teams going to the wall, such is the desperation of the 'bigger' devotees of the brave new world.
I enjoy the fact that Junior football, so dismissed by so many is such an annoyance to those who have bought the hype and are so incensed that not everyone has bought into the vision so skilfully sold to them.
These any many other things are just a part of my enjoyment, aside from amusement at the abject failure of the dimwit fringe to grasp that I don't give a flying one what THEY like, I wouldn't dream of trying to persuade them otherwise. Clearly this respect is beyond some, but as is shown, quite a lot is beyond a few who have signed up to the brave new world and would rather suffer years of decline than ever admit they are wrong. You pays your money, you makes your choice...they really are...sorry, it really is THAT simple.
Feel free to disagree...that's the difference between opinion and fact...with the former you cannot be right or wrong.
I appreciate you replying, I really do but half of what you've said makes no sense (like people at other clubs knowing about the history of the Juniors - does a Linlithgow fan no longer understand this? Does a Burntisland fan being knowledgeable about a different league and sharing this with you not add to your own knowledge?), some of it sounds like typical anti EoS "propaganda" for want of a better word (Groundhop Day - one matchday per season - has different kick off times but at least fixtures are published well in advance and can be played at standard times summer AND winter due to floodlights) and some of it does send out the dinosaur vibes you were saying isn't a fair representation of the average Junior football fans views (disabled facilities, decent toilets and floodlights deemed non-essential despite opening the game up to many more supporters). At the end of the day, if those views are representative of large numbers of supporters (and I appreciate you said they were your own), then the Junior game is going to end up as a minor footnote in Scottish football. People will look at teams who have invested a little in facilities and who can say who their opponents are in the months to come and wonder if standing on a grass bank and pissing behind an old groundman's hut for a 2 p.m. kick off because floodlights aren't allowed really is the best way to watch a game. Anyway, thanks for replying all the same.
Whilst I do not agree with all aspects of your response, your effort to clarify your standpoint and managing to do so without recourse to insult or bulging eyed pointless anger is refreshing and welcome. If clubs want to sell their souls for an anorak festival, that's up to them, although I will always maintain time spent engaging with the community, who might come back more than once and not be rushing for their next 'fix' would be time better spent.
I've yet to find the money tree under which the cash sits to pay for all of these improvements you speak of, but I'm sure, whatever your view on the desirability/ essential nature of facilities, none will be installed for free.
The chasm between the best equipped and most basic venues is vast, but few turn up not knowing what to expect and if the issue is close to your heart, an internet search or even a question to the less confrontational hereabouts would be enough to determine what's in store. Personally both the spartan and better equipped are fine by me and clubs struggling to survive because of 'necessary' improvement notices from a smoke filled room benefits nobody.
I cannot comment on the issues of lights in detail, although issues such as proximity to railway lines, residents' objections and other even less obvious pitfalls have prevented this in places I do know about, albeit not in Scotland.
Personally, I think floodlights are a waste of time for the vast majority, as long as the leagues are of a sensible size and the calendar not filled with pointless cup competitions, especially when the weather and light makes making headway with league schedules easier.
What we enjoy and how we enjoy doing it may differ, but it would be a dull world if we all thought the same and could only resort to childish name calling and humourless insults when in disagreement. It's highly unlikely that reasoned disagreement will ever catch big time on this forum, but stranger things have happened ( just don't ask me to name them.)
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2 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said:
Well then here's your opportunity - What is it specifically that these people who enjoy Junior football like so much that can't be replicated in other, non-league football?
I also wouldn't ever call anyone who supports any football team at any level a dinosaur (Well, maybe a Celtic or Rangers* fan), but what is a little odd is thinking that floodlights, fixture lists, facilities such as cover/toilets/areas for the disabled etc are somehow frightening. Again, if you can enlighten me as to why that would be great.Despite the angry bottom feeder comment that " it could be a while", I am happy to tell you what I enjoy. For the benefit of the stupid, notice I said 'I ' so the response is personal to me.
I enjoy the fact that I am able to meet people who have watched a certain level of football for years and are knowledgeable about not only their team, but the history of the game at Junior level, I enjoy kick off times being pretty standardised ( with the odd exception) rather than fannying with them as a sop to a handful of obsessed anoraks who'd watch two dogs with a beach ball as long as they could scribble feverishly in a notebook and watch four other sets of dogs the same day.
I enjoy the fact that Junior football lets people decide if a railed pitch and little else is adequate for them, as opposed to a fart in a suit dictating that lights, over-egged amounts of cover and plenty of other non- essentials are declared essential.
I enjoy the fact that the Junior game takes me to places it is unlikely I would visit otherwise. That may not be exclusive to the Junior game, but the 'greed is good' brigade will shed no tears over the smallest teams going to the wall, such is the desperation of the 'bigger' devotees of the brave new world.
I enjoy the fact that Junior football, so dismissed by so many is such an annoyance to those who have bought the hype and are so incensed that not everyone has bought into the vision so skilfully sold to them.
These any many other things are just a part of my enjoyment, aside from amusement at the abject failure of the dimwit fringe to grasp that I don't give a flying one what THEY like, I wouldn't dream of trying to persuade them otherwise. Clearly this respect is beyond some, but as is shown, quite a lot is beyond a few who have signed up to the brave new world and would rather suffer years of decline than ever admit they are wrong. You pays your money, you makes your choice...they really are...sorry, it really is THAT simple.
Feel free to disagree...that's the difference between opinion and fact...with the former you cannot be right or wrong.
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25 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said:
Thanks for replying. Still can't see there being the appetite or logic for two leagues representing the same region but if the boundaries can be tweaked and a West of Scotland League can be set up we'll be a lot closer to a fully working pyramid.
Another one of these "junior traditions" type posts. Which traditions, characters and the like are unique to the juniors that aren't currently or couldn't subsequently be seen in the other non leagues? Other than the Junior Cup, and I agree with bluebell1 above in that an all-in non league cup would be good to see, I've yet to hear any junior fan come up with a proper response.You probably fail to get a proper response due to the air of superiority, casting those who enjoy Junior football as 'dinosaurs', or whatever term the trendy new brooms choose.
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5 hours ago, Burnie_man said:
Never knew calling someone a voyeur was name calling
keep going north, you'll eventually reach Iceland. Not as good as the Co-op though, their fish fingers are a bit soggy.
I'm well acquainted with Iceland, some of us can make it further than the wastelands. I wouldn't expect you to understand a term as complex as voyeur, so no point explaining that it's rarely a neutral term. You probably think it's a space shuttle. For clarity, I enjoy watching junior football, think the lemming circus will fall flat on its arse and would never dream of saying anyone should do what I do...that would be arrogant. There is a difference between taking the bait from a deranged wasteland dweller and trying to get the simplest notion into his soft head. This is the latter. Junior football, with its character and indeed characters is what I enjoy. If you enjoy the circus, enjoy it with all of the other turkeys, but comment about THAT, not a strand of football you're not involved in and was probably heartily glad to be rid of the godforsaken hole, it's soulless carpet and 'defend everything the club does' sycophants. They're not soggy fish fingers by the way, it's the evolution of the next generation of locals.
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2 hours ago, Burnie_man said:
You're a voyeur who views Junior football as a perverse throwback to a bygone age. You don't really care about the health of the clubs or their long term future, as long as they remain caught in a timewarp for your casual viewing.
Games up I'm afraid old chum, they are finally moving fowards, they have to. If you don't like it then good, means they are making the right decisions and you'll have to move on elsewhere to get your fix.Name calling, misplaced self appointed expert and so determined to say a cobblers of a plan is a success. I already have moved elsewhere. Further north and, as luck would have it, further away from the fortified co-op land you love and watching Junior football that might even outlive your Neanderthal bitterness.
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1 minute ago, Sergeant Wilson said:
All that will still be available.
Yes...and if means going north of the Tay to spend my money watching what floats my boat, I will. Others are free to think and do otherwise.
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7 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:
As a Junior supporter, I have plenty of reservations about how it'll all turn out. The difficulty is that all the intellectual and cogent arguments support a pyramid. There is no logic in a separate grade.
Guess that depends on if football is just a part of escapism from the dull drudgery that pays the bills, or something you feel the need to immerse yourself in to a depth that means you can't remember it's supposed to be fun. A page on here about football for every ten about bureaucracy, in fighting. tedious fart in a suit meetings and everyone claiming to be far more important and in the know than they really are. Makes just turning up and watching a game the joy it is. Not everything in life is logical and many that are can be utterly dysfunctional
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47 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:
What the hell are you talking about Mr.Groundhopper, you've made all that up in your head
Predictably angry and pointless response including inaccuracies from the hell hole fanatic. Some things change, some stay the same. It isn't the nation's fault that even the simple is beyond you.
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There is nothing wrong with that schedule, in fact it would be perfectly balanced in the lead up to a late April/ early May final!