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I genuinely think Falkirk have been hard done by with the league finishing early. However I do think Mr Deans has a bit of a cheek saying other clubs acted with no sporting integrity after his clubs recent record and the fine they had to pay - you can't always get everything your own way.
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3 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said:
You will know the Spanish are as mental as us when it comes to football but with the death toll in Spain it was getting out of control,I had family in Spain through the middle of march they were struggling to come back here.
I think it got quite scary when the guardia civil were coming around street telling people to stay in doors that type of thing didn't help.
The football was just an afterthought but like most countries they wanted it to be completed and they have the resources to do it.I know exactly what you mean - my Neice was stopped by the Guardia Civil while driving into Madrid and told that she could be fined thousands of euro if her journey was not necessary. These are strange times.
Hopefully the football starts again soon with fans able to watch, here and in Spain!
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9 minutes ago, Aim Here said:
It's probably somewhere about half-and-half; but note that for this referendum - the pro-Independence parties won the regional elections, the pro-Spain crowd boycotted the election (often, that's a sign that they're scared of losing, and so challenge the legitimacy from the outset) and that the Spanish police forcibly prevented people from voting by closing polling stations. Those factors do indicate that the pro-Independence side certainly had a good chance of winning.
Aim
Fair point, well made - I can only take info from my family and friends in Spain.
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24 minutes ago, Pet Jeden said:
What? In a vote the Spanish state declared illegal, 43% nevertheless turned out and 97% of them voted Yes to independence. How is that deciding to stay Spanish?
Pet
As you rightly say, only 43% of people voted. I fully appreciate that the whole voting thing was a joke - but I genuinely don't believe most Catalonians want independance from Spain ? Who really knows, but the family I have in Spain certainly don't want Catalonia to leave (that includes family members in Barcelona).
Anyway, as said, I don't want to get into a big debate on something that is not my problem - just wanted to ask a question and wondered what people thought what would happen with the Spanish league.
Being a Morton Fan i look forward to meeting up with Hearts next season - I haven't seen a Ton v Hearts game sine the 80's. I genuinely think Hearts have been hard done by (as have Partick, Falkirk etc) but these are strange times.
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1 hour ago, wastecoatwilly said:
It's my second home and have a few friends in Spain,the franco fascistas wouldn't give Barcelona anything.
Wastecoatwilly
i don't want to get into a political argument (you have your thoughts and I have mine) but my second home is in Madrid, where I have family. I kind of agree with them that Catalonia had a vote and decided to stay Spanish.
Anyway, politics aside, do you think the Spanish League should have been called or finished behind closed doors?
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10 minutes ago, Sparticus said:
Does Budge even know hearts have been relegated?
Is Budge insane?
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58 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said:
Give me a run down on what Strachan was saying before I accuse you of walking about with your eyes shut.
Hey Wastecoatwilly
Hope you don't mind me asking, but why the 'Crown of Aragon' flag for your avatar, are you Catalonian? If so, how do you think the Spanish league will get going again ? Do you think they will get it up and running better than in Scotland?
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2 hours ago, Dons_1988 said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we have arrived at the wrong result, we haven't. I don't even think they have much grounds for a legal challenge.
I just think it's easy to say from the outside that they should just accept it. The board really has an obligation to anyone who may potentially lose their job to have explored every avenue they possibly can.
Fair enough - But is throwing lots of cash at a Court battle they are unlikely to win the best option. I would have thought that money would be better spent on wages (unless the legal funds are coming from personal funds from board members?)
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1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said:
To be honest, I'd be stunned if they just accepted it.
Whilst it's hilarious that they can't keep themselves in the top league for more than a handful of years at a time, you're still talking about a circumstance which imposes significant financial cuts, which likely will be your low paid workers etc losing jobs. Players with enforced salary cuts etc etc.
Your point about them only winning 4 games is subjective, what's the cut off point for how bad you need to be to just accept it? They hadn't been relegated yet.
I'd say they actually have an obligation to their stakeholders to explore every avenue to challenge it.
Dons - Good points well made.
Do you think the league should have been called, null & void?
Your right that Hearts had not yet been relegated, the same way Celtic hadn't won the league and others hadn't yet qualified for Europe. I fully appreciate your point on low paid workers, but is throwing money at a (probably doomed) Court battle the answer? As said, these are strange times, I just personally think that we have to accept the league is over and hope that we can have some (fan watched) football next season.
i know there has been Clubs who have benefited and Clubs who have lost out - but under the circumstances I think there was no other way forward (again just my opinion)
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I have nothing against Hearts, but I find it incredible in these times that they won't just accept relegation? Am I right in saying that they had only won 4 games (worst record in the league) and were 4 points adrift with the 2nd worst goal difference?.
I appreciate that it must be really hard to take for club and fans - but I honestly think they should accept the decision and set themselves up for an attack on the Championship (why waste money on legal arguments?)
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41 minutes ago, Ad Lib said:
I think I'd support the nuclear bombing of Cappielow.
Have you ever been to Cappielow Park ? If you had, you would know it was a real ground - like 'Love St' (St Mirren Park), Douglas Park, Brockville, Somerset Park, Broomfield etc.
Enjoy Legoland!
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Sports wise it seems very unfair ( which it is), but I think the only way to deal with this situation is to make this season null and void
I can't see any other way (sh1te as it is).
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9 hours ago, Granny Danger said:
It would be a travesty of justice if United were denied the title.
Why would it ?
I agree that it would appear to be very unlucky, but under these sircumstanses I really don't see it has a 'travesty'
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30 minutes ago, Vinnyjag said:
It would be an absolute shambles and grossly unfair if you guys don’t get promoted if the season ends now. Speaking as a Thistle fan it might work in our favour we’ll wait and see, but with more than 3/4 of the season completed and Utd so far in front I can’t see how the SPFL could deny you promotion.
It’s a complex issue which is going to cause unbelievable scenes whichever way it pans out.
Vinnyjag, While I agree it would seem very unfair if the league stopped now and Dundee Utd were not awarded the league, but it just wouldn't be right. That would mean all clubs would have to stay in their current league positions (look what has happened in the past, The Ton managed to throw away a title, The Midden managed to pull themselves off the bottom). As you rightly say, it's a complex issue (and a financial nightmare for all clubs), but unless the league can be played out in full, I think it is unfair to award promotion or relegation! I know that's sh!te, but that just seems fair?
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First time I have dropped down here into the league one forum as I am honestly not someone for pointing and laughing, and I have never had anything against FFC (quite the opposite, used to and watch them with my Mate that stayed in Bonnybridge) But, the amount of shite 'some' Falkirk 'fans' gave Moton during the whole McKinnon issue was well out out of order. Having said that, some Morton 'Fans' were also well out of order with their comments (maybe understandably due to the way McKinnon conducted himself?) Just wanted to make the point that I said at the time, you were paying Compensation, then fines for someone with no integrity! Again, nothing against the majority of Falkirk fans, but your club, BOD and certain fans behaved very poorly.
To be honest, I said at the time that I would rather have kept McKinnon (thank fu(k that didn't happen), but due to the way he left (not speaking to the players etc etc I was glad to see the back of him! Well, at least your 'rid of him now.
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17 minutes ago, 36-0 Maroon said:
I wasn’t there today but have it on great authority by a mate who is a massive Morton fan who said overall it was a very poor game with Arbroath the better side and should have had a stonewall penalty, He told me he was heavily embarrassed at how a full time club could be setup as defensive as they were and still look like the weaker and more lethargic side of the 2 teams. He was grateful and very relived for the 3 points and also doesn’t expect Hopkins to be there much longer if they continue to play like that and relegation is definitely on the cards, They weren’t much better than last month according to him and that is saying something as they were awful.
All the other comments seem to follow this same trend which is so disappointing after last weeks high , Miko is such a massive player for us and it has obviously shown again today, I agree Stirling should 100% fill in there when he can’t and have Thomson back at right back when he is fit, Also having Swankie back today will be a huge boost and is a real positive
️ Onwards and upwards, next week will be a cracker and a welcome rest from this really competitive and intense championship,
I would agree with most of your mates comments , although I do think there was also a very good call for a Ton penalty (and two free kicks just outside the Arbroath box, which not only not given, were given as Arbroath free kicks?), I'm not saying that, on our performance, we deserved much, but I do think it is a bit unfair to pinpoint the Arbroath Penalty claim and ignore the Morton one. To be honest I thought the referee was poor today (not a great surprise these days). As I said in my previous post, I thought Arbroath played more football than us in the second half (without bringing out any real saves from our keeper) and thought we were very poor. We seemed to be second to every ball (apart from our defenders, who one a lot of balls, before hoofing it up the park), when we did win the ball in midfield, no player seemed to have confidence and just wanted to get rid of it, like a hot potato. I did however think that Strapp did quite well in the first half and at least seemed to have a bit of heart. Overall, a pretty lucky 3 points.
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2 hours ago, afc_36_0 said:
90 mins of hoofball for arbroath & we got what we deserved.
Ref had a shocker & both teams could have had a penalty although the morton one could have been an indirect free kick for dangerous play when hammy tried to head the ball while on the groundTo be honest I thought it was more 90 mins of hoofball by Morton, thought Arbroath played a bit of football in the second half (without really bringing out a save from our keeper). I honestly thought Morton were very poor in the second half (although they did defend their goal well). We can't seem to string a few passes together - it's pump it forward regardless of whether there is someone there or not - very poor. (Although the three points were welcome, if not totally deserved)
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10 minutes ago, Hammer Jag said:
We need to talk about the plethora of grown men on Facebook who are going to extraordinary lengths to make up songs about Ian McCall.
Why ?
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16 hours ago, Cerberus said:
Mort6n
The Ton were sh1te yesterday, but not as bad as that - Morten I get, I don't like but I get - that just doesn't work, dear dear, try harder.
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1 hour ago, Thistle4eva said:
Morton are pish to be fair, but they have Hopkins we don't.
Caldwells subs were fucking atrocious, we scored 2 decent goals. But to be honest I don't even think we deserved to be 2 up at half time.
Morton's defence was all over the place in the first half, Mansell never really done anything as an attacking threat but as soon as he went off Morton's defence strolled it because no one was closing them down.
Caldwell seems to want everyone constantly counter pressing but that only works if you can keep the ball for spells in the game. We can't keep the ball for more than a minute then we are off chasing it down again. They all looked fucked after 60 minutes.
I thought both teams were pretty pish to be honest. Thistle looked slightly less pish first half, but neither team played much football in the first half. Second half, slightly better from both teams. Morton were far better when Sutton came on., not just his physical presence, but we just started playing better football (on the deck)). Your keeper did help us out a bit with our first. One thing Morton will be this season is fit, we will score a few late goals, Im not sure we we will be pretty to watch, but if we could only get a good couple of decent central defenders in we could do ok.
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50 minutes ago, Lordofthewing said:
Shit. If he was properly fucked it may have forced Lennon's (though probably not Lawwell's) hand with regards to getting a decent first-choice keeper in.
So you would actually want Bain to have a worse injury! Any time I've watched a Celtic game on TV, he seems to have performed well? Very odd post, actually wanting one of your first team squad to be "properly fucked" !
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On 11 June 2019 at 22:14, Buchanan & ?Telfer said:
we own you. Don't ever forget that. Total diddies
No - You own McKinnon (Ha Ha) and Ton cast off's (apart from Tidser who you are over paying for in League One), enjoy !
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6 hours ago, Andre Bo said:
I understand the need for some new investment, but I think it is foolish and short-sighted to welcome the Easdales.
Why?
Facts please.
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12 minutes ago, CC52 FFC said:
Shutting the academy wasn’t the problem IMO and putting the money towards the first team was correct. It was the fact we used the money to sign utter shite that’s what relegated us.
You would therefore say that all the blame for Falkirk finding themselves in League One is purely down to Hartley and McKinnon?
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I really feel sorry for St Mirren. But if you can't buy enough soap and follow the Covid 19 advice, then that's what happens