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1 minute ago, magoo said:
Programmes, I've never mentioned programmes or have any real intrest in programme,from what I've seen the lad that did the programmes did a superb job but in the context of budgets I've no real idea on there relevance, the club have had a tiny fan base since the 70s, I'm well aware that Whitehills level won't be lowland league in fact I've been one of the biggest advocates of team's finding there correct level within the new pyramid..my main point is from the start of the lowland league there's nothing that stands out in 5 season's why the budgets should change so dramatically,the old commitee whilst hard working were hardly ground-breaking in finance raising and the new comitee again hard working but working within the same constraints will struggle to raise money..I just don't see where the well that run dry was overflowing in the first place so much so we've gone from good budget to bad budget
You would have to ask a current or previous committee member maybe they will explain the ins and outs of where the money has gone and why there was no contingency in place when they seen it was running out.
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2 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:
Still doesn’t have any relevance to my point. I’m sure I seen Musselburgh had 2/300 at their game against nitten last week that’s the comparison which helps attract sponsorship or gives you a better chance.
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Just now, newcastle broon said:
Talking shite again look at the stats for the average crowds. Our crowds are actually doon this year but still above some LL sides
How is that talking shite against the teams I have quoted? Read the post
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2 minutes ago, Baxter's Nutmeg said:
It’s the evolution of the LL, you have teams coming in who have wealthy backers and teams who have been traditionally strong. It’s only going to get harder to survive in this league once the ex junior EoS teams start filtering in.
Your spot on and in a few years the likes of the uni teams, vale, Dalbeattie etx will all be out the league of the Bonnyrigg’s, Penicuik, Linlithgows of the world get up.
Way it should be to be fair ambitious teams with the right backing and infrastructure should all be in the top the leagues leagues as long as they merit it and work to get there
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2 minutes ago, magoo said:
Why what happened in the first 3 lowland league seasons that were different to the last two that budget has gone from big to small...
The well ran dry and not enough finance brought in maybe? It’s one thing having nice programmes, another thing altogether being able to finance a decent side for the lowland league these days. Club has a tiny fan base in comparison to your rose, nitten and Penicuik etc which doesn’t help either.
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14 minutes ago, Jamesw said:
our budget used to be huge in eos but wi teams coming in an spendin big we are a minnow now. shitshow started wi small an got worse wi landells. thought yano would turn it round but he obv cant. its no his team but if he’s away to nitten we have another change o manager comin. who next?
That’s the point last season was the first season the club has not had the big or even decent budget in comparison to previous years that’s no coincidence the decline, and the changing of managers hasn’t helped I guess. Any way I will return to abeyance as don’t want to upset anyone, bring back deejay :-) lol
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7 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:
You keep mentioning the budget ?
We had a perfectly decent YOUTH set up where players were playing for the name alone ?
We have left Lasswade as an u20s home base and now play as toonies ?
Youth seems the way to go forward but as much as there may be one or 2 decent just now you can't help but fear for the discipline incidents that's happening nearly every week ?
Bonnyrigg are running a 20s team next season where if we were playing out o lasswade we'd maybes get 1st dibs on the young laddies coming through ?
Surely not is bang on the button we're miles behind Vale who last week struggled for a team ,Gala,Strollers all teams we used to dominate in the EOSFL ?
Far too many lads have left the club,that's no a budget problem that's bad management ?
But that’s part of my point around bad management, yous thought Bingham, Smally, jock were all shite and now if you believe what’s been posted we have a manager who’s not won a game and is likely to join nitten months after taking up the position, that’s just crazy. Problem as I see it is stability and patience. We have seen a countless amount of young lads feature last few years and recently yes they have left for one reason or another o take that point. Youth is definitely the way ahead when you don’t have the funds like a kelty and EK.
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1 minute ago, surely not! said:
I’ve said this before in this thread and I’ll say it again. As far as I can see, it’s not the actual budget that’s the issue- there’ll be about half that league operating with less imo but the way it’s been used.
Some horrific players brought in for the money.How do you know the budget and on what money players have come In on? You rtalking nonsense there’s players there on 300 a season in the lowland league come on wake up your only going to get so far with that.
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2 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:
1) So ye were nowhere near the game today yet are comparing 2 6 goal defeats
2) Did you read kayemphoto s post ?
3) Budgets ?
Yer no telling me that the likes of Strollers,/Vale have better budgets than WW ?
4) Has any of the umpteen managers you say gone onto better things ?
5) Have i called players rats leaving sinking ships ?
6) So who's fault is it ?
1) So ye were nowhere near the game today yet are comparing 2 6 goal defeats
- results yes
2) Did you read kayemphoto s post ? - yes I did and your point is in a 6-2 defeat?
3) Budgets ? - yes is not rocket science as you say comparing Whitehill to kelty coincidence I think not
Yer no telling me that the likes of Strollers,/Vale have better budgets than WW ? - yes I am and if you were close enough to it you would know that’s the case we couldn’t compete when trying to sign players who got offered more are both these clubs which is a fact not hearsay
4) Has any of the umpteen managers you say gone onto better things ? - irrelevant really, so WW have retired then all what a claim. More to the point what have Whitehill went on to achieve?
5) Have i called players rats leaving sinking ships ? - yes you have check your previous posts
6) So who's fault is it ? - without doubt the people who have run the club over the last number of years. To leave the club with absolutely no money 2 years ago is unforgivable. Mind I’d be interested to hear the programme mans view on this?
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1 minute ago, newcastle broon said:
No greeting here i just think a decent conversation either at match or pm would suffice.
Still waiting on the PM Mr coward yet youre the one wanting to get topic back onto fitba ffs !
Still waiting to hear if you there today it's a simple question eh ?
Happy to have a conversation and I don’t want to get into insults like c***s hiding behind keyboards.
I wasn’t there today no so can’t comment on the performance. Unfortunately the result was as I feared and I’m not in all honesty surpised. It’s been dismissed on here about budgets and finances by some and how that can be implied that it’s not a relevant factor beggars belief. You’ve suggested the same in your post earlier yet slaughters previous management for similar results under the same constraints. The club has had 3 managers this season alone and umpteen in the last 5 seasons, they can’t all be bad and if they are the club is at fault for hiring them or for not having sufficient finances to compete.
ive also found it amusing suggesting players as rats deserting the sinking ship when the people who played their part in letting the club get into this state were happy to walk away and absolve themselves from any blame. The people who put their head above the parapet and pick up the pieces yes errors have been made but it’s not entirely their faults imo.
What do you make of that?
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11 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:
The only person i have asked to PM me in all my time on here is deejay ?
Aye that would help what is it wi cnuts that hide behind a keyboard ?
What you mean between those and the people who greet when their name is referred to lol strange very strange comment.
Mr Broon some consistency please
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18 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:
You there today ?
Bit unfair naming names yet again is it no or are you still the coward behind the keyboard!
Now hang on a second I pay my money I'm allowed an opinion will give praise when i see it ,say it how i see it and wasn't the only one so don't go singling me oot either ffs!
Simmer down your the one I’ve watched umpteen times recently tell everyone that posts that everyone knows who you are and PM me this and that, very strange you have taken umbrage to that.
i will single out which poster makes which comment I want to respond to thank you very much, or do you want me to PM you with who I am to see how Whitehill I am before my comments carry weight.
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1 minute ago, newcastle broon said:
Ah you've popped up from the ashes I see.
Were you at both in fact ALL 3 games ?
What s changed ?
I'd say Kelty have moved through the gears a lot more. Did you forget we played them at theirs in between these fixtures ?
I’ve been watching from afar and to be honest glad to be discussing the football rather than the car crash this thread has been last few weeks.
The result In between isn’t my point Davy its your reaction to this one when I witnesses along with everyone else you slaughtering the team and management at the time for the same result by and large.
As magoo has said the reality is when you have a budget of peanuts compared to kelty and the likes results like this arnt too surprising. Anyone who thinks different is simply deluded.
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7 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:
Let's give them some credit here. That was as good a performance AGAINST us I have seen in a long time. Yes we're miles away from them but they're an SPFL club in waiting from the team right through to the sponsorships. Probably another 400+ attendance today at least 5 times what we can only manage.
I don’t remember you being so diplomatic with the correspondent fixture when it was by and large the same result, what’s changed?
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Is this guess who or do you actually want to name who it is?
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2 hours ago, The 49Bus said:
Can’t say it’s a shock they have parted company, the main thing is to bring in the right management team this time to try and turn the season around, tough ask no matter who gets the job.
Ok sure there will be people wanting to take on the challange that’s for sure.
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13 minutes ago, magoo said:
Well as that's your opioion that's fine but it also does not make it a definitive fact that it's not, my short dealings with the same person were similar of a confident well spoken individual but imo that was not entirely transformed on to the pitch. And as I said I have it from a reliable source and a good friend about touting at least one player around other clubs
Let’s be honest the club has bigger things to concern themselves with at this stage than you constantly going on about an individual who left the club months ago. Regardless of my own feelings about the last few years I don’t think a manager leaving and certain players wanting to leave as a result is such ground breaking stuff as you would put it. You clearly don’t like the guy we get that just leave it at that and focus on the current and future, it’s getting tiresome.
I think the club need to be commended for acting,’some would say too late but there’s still along season to go and loss of points up for grabs.
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1 hour ago, magoo said:
Well if Edinburger is who the general consensus says...touting we players to other clubs the day after...I know that from the horse's mouth of another clubs commitee...what player left days after the manager
Who do you think edinburger actually is?
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54 minutes ago, magoo said:
Like groundhog...not once have I said I feel the management team are the ones to take ww forward but they are in place and as a supporter there is nothing I can do....but they are joined together by imo a group of players that are very poor, the squad as a whole were put together last summer and this summer by the management team at the time, it's become a touch embarrassing now the way a certain few on here won't say anything critical about the player's but put the sole blame at the managers door. If people have opioion s about Whitehill and football at least have the balls to be truthful and not paper over all the facts because they have personal/family agenda's to support
I think that’s rich coming from you where almost every post criticises the previous management. Any club in this position has to accept criticism about all aspects, players, management, committe etc. Please don’t you mention facts as you clearly don’t use facts and tend to make up things to suit your agenda. Teams on the beach recent comment where you got shot down springs to mind. Ultimately the committe will decide on football matters if your not happy with management or players voice it to them.
I think these people who you suggest have family / agendas etc, they see a lot more games than you do so are entitled and dare I say better placed to share an opinion on what they see. But they havnt supported Whitehill for as long as you so that won’t be relevant.
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5 minutes ago, Yhd 75 said:
Off to Tranent this missing player.
Who’s this missing player
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It’s like Groundhog Day on this thread. I think we need to move on and look forward. Regardless of opinions what shouldn’t be lost on people especially supporters of the club or Infact any club is that people give up a hell of a lot of their time to try do a good job. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t but you can at least respect them for their efforts.
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3 hours ago, newcastle broon said:
2 years ago today this is what we had. No saying who's fault it is but by fcuk there's a squad there that would be far from bottom of the LL.
And there's a few on this thread trying to justify this season's team or even last season's team!
It’s been done to death wether it’s current manager, previous manager, players, current committee to blame who all may have a part to play in one way or another.
On the other hand you have posters on about the really good committe men that left, isn’t it these same committe men that let the biscuit tin go dry and left other guys to pick up the pieces to keep the club going. It’s easy to associate yourself with a club when everything is in a healthy state, far more difficult to fight to get it back there and go out and bring in the money to do it.
Either way the current committe have to do what they see best rightly or wrongly.
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12 hours ago, Rab B Nesbit said:
Fraser Neave has joined the Shire hope he does well. Ex Selkirk and Gala. Good footballer and a good lad.
Was surprised to see that signing to be fair as don’t think he was playing at Gala. Good luck to the lad tho
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Yup a terrible end to the season but we certainly didn’t stay up taking points from teams on the beach. As you say old ground let’s look forward
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Where’d the welfare thread go?
in Lowland League
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No me. Horse has bolted unfortunately