theundisputedvoiceofreason
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On 30/09/2021 at 15:43, Big Jocks Chewin The Fat said:
Maybe someone should break the news to them that it is cause WAT is shite now! They now have their cosey wee pun closed shop where only their dad pals can post nonsense to each other about what they had for lunch etc. All the good posters have stopped posting, been banned and new folk cannot join cause the signup is broken. Least it is more sprightly over here with mixed views. A Bit Quiet - Main Jags forum - Unofficial Partick Thistle FC Forum (wearethistle.net)
When you say sprightly not exactly a hotbed of opinions on here.
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6 hours ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said:
Not rattled in the least. Just pointing out what a moron McCall is.
Pot n kettle methinks.
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1 hour ago, kerly said:
Yes these are all good points for supporters to raise but the board and working group should move on and fined solutions to our predicament not keep moaning at every opportunity.
Excellent words by Tom Hosie. I think both the board and the working group are trying to move on, but each time they do unremitting negative events surround us and of course the country. I'd rather we fought our corner as best we can rather than say nowt.
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2 hours ago, dave.j said:
What does it say?
That fans won't hand over money freely, whilst our board of directors burn through it like it's going out if fashion?
Give me one reason I should give them money, if they are mismanaging the money they already have?
I'm glad I'm free thinking and can make decisions for myself. I pity the folk who are gullubly buying the pish being fed to us by the club.
So its only you that is free thinking and those who choose to support the team through the go fund me site are not free thinking? There are hundreds of people on there so they are all gullible idiots?
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2 hours ago, banditjag said:
Since when did reasoned discussion/arguement become whining? Genuine question.
Surely the whole point of these forums is to allow people to vent their spleen, highlight concerns, slag others, indulge in counter arguments. Don't see whining going on here, just fed up frustrated football fans trying to find some comfort by typing a rant.
Nothing to see here, move along now
So finding comfort by slagging off your fan base is ok? How is that a meaningful debate? I'm venting my spleen so I don't see the problem. Quid pro quo.
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1 hour ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said:
Brainless.
Agreed. It is brainless to think that your viewpoint is the only one in town and the views of fans on FB and other forums is beneath contempt. Oh the arrogance.
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2 hours ago, dave.j said:
So you have no counter argument for anything that's mentioned. Just personal attacks on people. You charge on fella.
What personal attack. Read the thread and you will see plenty of attacks on your fellow fans. Sounds like you're awfy sensitive
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43 minutes ago, dave.j said:
When can we expect the counter argument?
Reg: If you want to join the People's Front of Judea ( P and B brach ), you have to really hate J LOW/ Board/ Thistle fans
Brian: I do!
Reg: Oh yeah, how much?
Brian: A lot!
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34 minutes ago, Jacky1990 said:
The only incessant whining is the one being done by Low and her happyclappers with the "its not fair" moonhowling.
I wondered which member of the People's front of Judea ( P and B Branch: Membership 3 ) would bite first. Whine, whine, whine we want a statement/ we don't want a statement/sack the board/sack McCall/ its all Britton's fault/ sue the SPL/ don't sue the SPL/ put the USH on/ Switch aff the USH. ad infinitm....
If your going to whine expect the counter argument, assuming the PFJ allow it.
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2 hours ago, Jacky1990 said:
That statement
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Obviously support the team through thick and thin, regardless of what division we are in and the level of ineptitude of the players, etc.
But f**k me I dont half hate those running the club and a decent section of our support (the Twitter and Facebook goons) right now.
The games up lads, we have to admit that the team is in a position that our board and a section of the fanbase deserve.
A more than decent section of our support equally cannot abide the malcontents who are happy to pour oil on the situation, while blind to a world wide pandemic that has impacted on our club and many others. Quid pro quo. If your hate for the board and many of its fans, why bother apart from whining incessantly about it?
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59 minutes ago, dave.j said:
Tell you what, I'll start giving the Club money when they get a reality check and start running the place relative to the league we're in, instead of throwing money around like we are still a Premiership team.
Deal?
So we should go part time right now?
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19 minutes ago, Pie Of The Month said:
Dare I suggest shiting it from Cowdenbeath?
Dare I suggest with the injury list we have it would be better to take any advantage we have? Game will be off anyhow
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3 minutes ago, dave.j said:
It's very confusing. I think we are now at 4 different reasons why we didn't make sure the pitch was playable.
My own view for what it is worth is a) the cost of USH and b) our injury list particularly up front. Either or a combination suits me. No statement from PTFC required
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7 minutes ago, dave.j said:
Who told you we don't have enough money to afford to use USH?
I didn't say we couldn't afford it. I said we didn't have too spend it under the circumstances.
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Pretty obvious it was the right thing not to to spend money we don't have to in these economically challenging times. Only the most pedantic among our support would not see this. Do we really need a full statement when it's patently obvious that the club decided not to put two bars on the fire on? I can imagine the club putting out a statement and some pedant then moaning about the statement lmao.
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Maybe dundee are making wage cuts to fund Dundee United's arbitration costs. Gotta love that sporting integrity.
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1 hour ago, Skyline Drifter said:
I am split on this.
On the one hand the whole legal process is a nonsense. It should never have been in Court in the first place and there's only one club to blame for that. The three specifically named clubs shouldnt have been individually named anyway. Hearts argument is with the League and if they must have the legal equivalent of a toddler throwing a tantrum on a supermarket floor then their action should have been limited to the League and not other clubs who did not unilateraly make the decision.
Given the 3 clubs were effectively sued by Hearts (with Thistle jumping up and down with their arms in the air shouting "me too") they can hardly be blamed for defending themselves. I am not party to the finer details of the court judgement but its disappointing costs were not awarded against Hearts. This is an unnecessary cost and the clubs shouldnt really have to bear it.
BUT lets not forget all three clubs won promotion as a result and will increase their income as a result. Two of the three are very obviously adopting the spend, spend, spend approach to earning promotion. All three just got a £50k donation from James Anderson, though granted United presumably need to spend that on testing etc and will likely have to play 3 months+ behind closed doors. Raith just sold a player for a reputed £150k (though it was known about months ago and may have been advance spent). United just got a reputed 6 figure settlement for their manager. They bought their way out of the division spending a very large salary on an international striker and are losing well into 7 figures a year. Its hard to see why other clubs should therefore have to subsidise £30k+ of legal fees for them.
I wouldnt be completely averse to the League giving a one off grant to the three to cover some basic costs but I also accept that largely amounts to the same thing (would reduce the prize pool) with the disadvantage of costing clubs who voted against such a move rather than just leaving it up to those who want to help to do so.
So I'm still split on it and more annoyed that at a horrible time for Scottish football Hearts (& Thistle) would rather take hundreds of thousands of cash out of the game to line the pockets of QC's.
Surely the dundee united owner could easily fund the costs? Is he not a multi millionaire. Arbitration the only way to sort this irrespective of the cost. It is let us not forget all about establishing whether football integrity has in fact been applied fairly and legally.
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Premier League clubs shouldn't be relegated if season isn't completed - Brighton owner - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52339058
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44 minutes ago, Stan Butler Says said:
No-one knows how Thistle would have voted in these circumstances - however there is a genuine argument that we would have voted “no”, citing the same solidarity arguments as ITC, East Fife, and one or two others. Evidence for this can be found in the sanctimonious wind in our surrender statement - our board and much of our support really do see us as a Special Club, carrying the torch of love for all humanity in all our dealings. We really are Nice People - and a complete push-over, which was surely uppermost in the minds of the SPFL when they discussed shafting us as part of their grand plans. You should take a look at the wearethistle forum - there are Thistle fans glorying in our wonderfulness, as we plummet to the third tier of scottish football.It's fair to say that we may have voted YES. However as a fan of football I would have lambasted it for the exact same reasons as many non PTFC fans have. Of course being fitba other fans will take the chance to put the boot in, but at the same time knowing the decision to relegate us in these circumstances is corrupt. With regard to thistle fans glorifying this you either cant read or are being deliberately selective.
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25 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:
Thistle did not vote for the interests of Scottish football. Like everyone else they voted for their own interests. They don't have any moral high ground and I'm astonished anyone would genuinely think they do.
I never said the moral high ground was particularly high. However I think everyone can agree ( well most ) that our case is particularly harsh.
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47 minutes ago, Speroni*1 said:
Don't talk pish.
You changed your vote. Dont talk pish
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55 minutes ago, RossBFaeDundee said:
The statement essentially felt like a sad acceptance of relegation.
The statement was all about retaining a sense of decency during the crisis. Let's call it the moral high ground. A place that few clubs can aspire too. No matter what PTFC will come through it.
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26 minutes ago, Speroni*1 said:
Enjoy League 1. Bottle bags.
In other news, Les Gray has announced Sky MUST have 4 OF games per season. How do we work that into a 14 team league?
Dundees bottle went first. Your board and chairman are the laughing stock of UK football. Fact.
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The Partick Thistle thread
in Scottish Championship General Chatter
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Perhaps to escape your carping? Thankfully thistle don't have many supporters ( sic ) like you.