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7 hours ago, pipedreamer said:
I would be most concerned about Sauchie Juniors CFC application.
I believe the EoS rules only allow one club membership of their leagues (if Stirling Uni were to be relegated from the LL I believe Stirling Uni EoS would cease to play in the EoS). Sauchie are a reserve team for the EoS side and may find themselves being knocked back on that basis.
Don’t underestimate the application process for the EoS, it’s not a box ticking exercise and unless it’s changed they are as much interested in what your club will bring to the league, what their plans for the future are and why you want to join the league in the first place.
That's good to know, sounds like quite a robust process. Although, I was referring to the teams that are funded through criminal means.
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1 hour ago, Pyramidic said:
What an addition to the EOSFL! Really looking forward to the sight of Armadale in the league next season. Possibly within a First Division Conference?
Wow, looks like they may even have toilets now!
Seriously though, it looks nice. The potential was always there for the Volly, it was just tired and had seen better days. It's good that they've been able to spend some time sorting a number of different areas out.
Still awaiting their official, "EoS here we come, woohoo", statement.
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Will be interesting to see how many of the current EoS applicants get knocked back after all checks have been completed. If integrity is a meaningful cornerstone of the EoS, I can see at least 2 being knocked back.
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5 hours ago, Pyramidic said:
Agreed. I am very sad that we are not able to complete the 2020/21 season or get anywhere near the half way point. Truly gutted.
I think we need to accept the fact that this season has been prematurely terminated and keep the same format for 2021/22 with the 18 teams in the Premier Division. The First Division should be reformatted into three conferences with the addition of the new applicants. One promotion place for each of the conferences with five clubs relegated from the Premier Division. The other top clubs in the Conferences will play in the new First Division in 2022/23 so plenty to play for and to look forward to.
I think the sensible option would be to start the 2021/22 season in early July and see if we can beat this dreadful pandemic this time around. An early start should ensure that if there is an enforced break at some time in the new season it will not destroy the whole campaign.
It is hard to come to terms with termination of our season and its consequences but much harder to accept the loss of family, friends or associates to this dreadful pandemic.
100% agree with the above.
The EoS should call it now and allow teams to build towards next season with an earlier start date to mitigate any potential COVID pauses next season.
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38 minutes ago, Whitburn Vale said:
Harthill are 110% going to the WoSFL....,just spoke to the guy from my work who is on the HRFC committee yesterday and they are going west.
Any news on Armadale and the others?
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42 minutes ago, Dev said:
Great Podcast with excellent Guest Speaker!
Looks as though Harthill Royal are the only West Lothian Juniors club which can apply to the WoS. I wonder if they will stop short of going ahead with that as it appears that all of the remainder of the WL clubs won't be allowed in.
It will be interesting to see what Armadale Thistle, Fauldhouse United and Stoneyburn Juniors decide to try next. I hope that they will kick the past into touch and go ahead positively with applications to the EoS.
Any more news on the Bo'ness Juniors CFC and Sauchie CFC situations?
Agreed. I hope they all go EoS but I just had a wee look at the West Lothian map to refresh my memory, and totally forgot how close Fauldhouse were to the boundary. Personally, if Harthill can apply WoS I see no issue with Fauldhouse trying too.
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1 hour ago, Burnieman said:
Very bizarre, I've also heard that at least one West Lothian club (not Harthill) still think they have a chance of joining the WoS. I wonder what goes through people's minds at times.
Who is it? Go on, I need a laugh.
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26 minutes ago, Brian Carrigan said:
Can anyone sum up what the script is here from the beginning? What are the accusations? Have all of the above players walked as well as the management team?
It seems to circle around their "funding arrangements".
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14 minutes ago, Junior Pub League said:
BLIMEY!!
Chairman’s Statement March 2021 – Camelon Juniors FC
Sounds like an utter shit show at the moment.
Credit to the Camelon Chairman for putting out a statement, and for the club going through the correct channels to investigate the accusations.
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On 12/03/2021 at 00:08, Auld Heid said:
J P Millar.
Sacked through Facebook. Wow.
I am never one to take to social media but on this occasion it is simply vital. To be very clear, we have not “parted company”, we were sacked for asking questions regarding the running of the club. The truth as always will out...
Gordon Herd
Eamon Fullerton
Andy Kay
Greg Skinner
Alan Docherty
Ali Jenkins
Calum Gray
Conor Langton
Connor Nallumcm
Conor McKenzie
Emma Harper
Greg Macpherson
Jack Denham
Ross Allum
Scott Law
Alan Sneddon
Jack Sharples
Jordan Herron
Keir Macaulay
Mark Stowe
David James Morrison
Paul GillespieMust be something major going on for such a mass walkout/sackings
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1 hour ago, Junior Pub League said:
Refreshing the Whitburn Facebook page every 30 seconds to see what tear stained missive or massive reverse ferret they come out with.
Na, they'll all be too busy phoning the WoS board pleading with them to reconsider....
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4 hours ago, glensmad said:11 hours ago, Dev said:Any news on other matters discussed i.e. at the General Meeting of clubs?
It was a very short meeting, with an update on the current suspension and more potential constitutional changes ahead of the AGM. No questions were raised by the clubs.
When is the AGM?
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4 hours ago, Burnieman said:
Different options with "meat on the bones" so people can visualise it. Just guesswork on what clubs are where. I left Harthill out.
Doesn't look too bad for any newbies.
Is there a date the current season needs to be concluded by, or is it a possibility that it gets extended to the end of July? Assuming we're allowed to get back playing football in the next couple of months.
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5 minutes ago, Burnieman said:
Harthill you mean? yes I believe so, trying to persuade those who have already applied to the EoS. It needs nipped in the bud pronto.
If they really see their future in the WoS then Harthill should have the courage of their own convictions and go for it without trying to cause problems elsewhere.
I wasn't refering to Harthill.
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6 minutes ago, Burnieman said:
As I have pointed out twice, it's not an "unknown" as far as the EoS is concerned, it's one of two scenarios. The granular detail is missing due to the current situation, but that doesn't stop clubs applying to a league they should be moving to anyway in the knowledge that one of two scenarios will play out. At least three WL clubs have already applied, of which one may have also applied to WoS.
The WoS elect a new board on 1st March, that isn't when the leagues meet, I doubt a date for that has even been set.
I believe the 3 applications that have already been received were input before a certain WL club, who seem to be the driving force behind a push to the WoS, started trying to turn heads.
I think the poster above hit the nail on the head. The most sensible thing to do would be to apply for both leagues and see how it all pans out.
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1 hour ago, Burnieman said:
How can anything be ratified for next season given the position football is currently in? I gave your the two scenarios that the EoS will move to, and I'm sure if clubs were concerned, the EoS themselves would provide further details.
New applicants could find themselves in a position next season where they are only a Conference win away from the EoS Premier (if this season is null and voided), or only two promotions away (if it is concluded). But again, I'm not sure that's the issue driving this.
I'm not saying it should already be ratified, I'm simply pointing out both league structures for newbies joining are unknown. It's full of ifs/maybes/i'm guessing. Both yourself and Ginaro have confirmed a new club would be venturing into the unknown.
I hope we know more after the WoS and EoS meetings which i believe take place in the 1st of March. How long does it take for official word to trickle out of these meetings?0 -
12 hours ago, Ginaro said:
That's untrue, we do know a fair bit about next season.
WOS have said they'll go back to the Premier and Conferences A/B/C that were set prior to the season, with teams who have sat the season out presumably returning. New clubs are apparently going to be put in their own division below that (though not sure what happens if there's only a handful of new clubs accepted?).
EOS is a bit trickier as presumably things depend on whether or not 50% of games are achieved to call the season otherwise it is null & void. With the former I assume promotion/relegation and restructuring into Premier-First-Second takes place, for the latter I'm guessing they might just redo the season in the same structure and incorporate the new teams.
Doesn't sound like it's untrue going by the above. What i was getting at is nothing has been ratified for the next season, and until that happens who knows what it'll look like.
With the WoS only having an interim board at the moment, and any decisions about the shape of EoS still to happen, it makes it tricky for clubs to know what to do especially with the deadline for applications only 30 odd days away.
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2 hours ago, Burnieman said:
They all (or at least most) of them decided to stick together as a West Lothian league after getting the ERJFA regionalised and thought they could make a go of it and expand it. They used to have inter-club committee quiz nights where this was discussed. I think at that time they also believed there would still be a reasonably large WRJFA operating.
Then the WoS happened, and I know some felt they had been shafted by their friends in the West leaving the Juniors en-masse. All of a sudden they were the only Juniors south of Tayside.
Livvy decided they had seen enough and applied to the EoS, way too late for this season but made it clear they'd come back this year, and they have.
For those that remain it's a succession of bad decisions over the last 3 years, yet the clubs who left for the EoS are apparently the ones to blame for it all.
It seems some are not learning from their bad decisions.I'll start off by admitting I support one of the West Lothian teams that are looking to join the pyramid this time round. I believe we should have applied a couple of seasons ago to the EoS and also believe the EoS is probably the route that should still be taken.
However, the WoS must still be viewed as a viable option. Living on the western boundary of the EoS or the eastern boundary of the WoS is going to cause travel issues regardless of where we fall. But the main issue for me is the fact that no one knows in any detail what the league makeup will look like in either region next season (thanks to the pandemic). We're essentially fumbling around in the dark, which i get is out own fault for not moving sooner. Realistically, what would be the real issues for WL being a mix WoS and EoS? Is there not only 3 WL team currently in the EoS? We're not talking masses are we (before someone points out, yeah I know there are 0 in the WoS currently). As has been pointed out numerous times already, it doesn't need to fit to the council area.
I've only dipped in and out of this thread and the EoS equivalent as what will be will be. There's no point being caught up in "past traditions" as that's exactly what was left behind when teams moved to a new association. As Bestsinceslicebread mentioned, it's a clean slate. I hope whoever makes the decision bases it on facts and not hard feelings towards others. Although if they base a decision around a promise of moving the current WL league as a whole and trying to slot it in as a complete division somewhere, it would would be extremely shortsighted.0
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Armadale will make a full page announcement on going EoS on 1st April, just so folk are unable to tell if it's an April fool or not.