Hoose Rice

Its all and good spending the money they have commercially but empty stands eventually and loses through no Europe, bottom six and no cup run wipes all that away. Are you seriously trying to say money on the football side of things for the first team has been spent well? Again you are saying others opinions are attacking the club. Does nothing for your argument - I could say being blinkered like you is doing more damage. If new goalie coach is an improvement good news.

Who was the managers choice to come in defence January? Please dont say Rocky

So doesn't really matter that the product on the pitched has regressed shockingly, costing the club majorly financially as long as commercially we are improving even though we are still nowhere near (Rons words) Hertz or Aberdeen in that aspect? Selling players that where at the club well before Ron and his boy will paper over everything financially also. Bottom 6 now out the cup will hit us hard. As will being nowhere near Europe again this season.

We shouldn't have signed him at all but if plan b is to put him out on loan to FC Edinburgh that has my blessing. Season starts in two days. Cutting this new improvement to the defence a bit fine. Only needed one since JR asked about a year back.

So you prefer the deluded patience option based on nothing but just hope. Fair enough, I dont see how that helps either though.

No, get him out the team until hes even remotely good enough - something I can never see happening.

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Cheers m9

Why do they keep doing so then? In January Ron shot down the fans that asked about the signings saying Jan was successful ffs Check the squad we got left with. Last season we went from third to bottom 6 crap costing us massively both on and off the park. Payoffs for Jack and Shaun too. 2014 Was a continuation of decline. 3 to worrying about relegation is a disaster and the thing is I see no improvement at all. In fact worse, a lot worse from the start of last season.

Correct. Really is that simple.

The point being based on the past he's still a lot, lot better than Rocky who has showed the square root of zero. Hanlon shouldnt have been in the side many a seasons when he was younger. It coincided with us having crap sides, just like Rocky now.

Nope he was building a side from scratch after relegation had us playing as a team, great football and some great results. We stayed down with the **** in the league and ran out of steam making two national finals. Look at the players he brought to the club and compare them with now? A few fans? its not the fans choice though its the owner and his utter lunacy to sack him a week before taking his team to a national final to finally replace him with Maloney ffs another gamble that we had to wait and see if came good. Ive listened to the interviews and the guys deluded. How much has been spent on the players above? So far only Henderson looks a player. Doidge was here before Ron came in. We should be spending money on established players, one or two even instead of complete gambles. All they players and still have the 3 amigos kicking about the middle of the park. Lewis will end up in there again this season absolute nap. Why? Because we havent concentrated on improving the middle of the pitch with better players than are there now. Only a gamble from Leeds who looks a fish out of water at this level.

Paul Hanlon has given many good years and is usually part of our defence when at its best. Rocky has done jack shit to even suggest hes even nearly good enough for this league even.

He didnt ask that at all. He asked why everyone was negatve towards the move - because he is pap is the answer. Nothing personal its why he was dropped before he left before coming back and everyone was in agreement he wasnt good enough now randomly he is? We are trying to sign better? Really? More random punts. No we are bad because last season was a disaster and we have followed it up being emptied off part timers. I would be ok if was a fluke but it just continued on the deterioration of the playing side. Its ok for you to guess it will get better based on very little but I get the lottery numbers chat because ive seen no progression at all? More of the patience chat and back the team. We hear it every year. The team will be backed a forum is the place to air concerns.

Personally loved it under Stubbs and could see early on what he was trying to do. Was patient and would have backed him more even if we didnt win the Cup. Ross brought us from second bottom to stable then 3rd. He needed backing then support, class manager who would have took us further. Right now its pure carnage with no plan apart from sign randoms and hope they come good. Ive no confidence it will come good this season as theres nowt to suggest it will apart from blind faith. Thats not being negative for the sake of it or sticking the boot in its being honest based on recent history. £6m in player sales and how much spent on the team? £100k on Rocky. Thats it.

He missed 2 open goal headers against clyde too, he closes his eyes as he goes to head the ball. Should be nowhere near our first team based on the time at the club.

Or maybe my eyes tell me the boy since January's utter pap. Literally everyone was delighted he was dropped after the PBS and was on his way at the end of the season as utter plumb. Now theres plenty backtracking to its people wanting to put the boot in the club and poor Rocky. I want the players we sign to be good enough to help progress the team and I want the club to not be bottom 6 pish emptied out the LC by Falkirk and Clyde. When that happens its saying it like it is - ive no desire to put the put the boot in but when the team I care about stands before me as a shambles I will say so instead of praying it all comes good.

I for one would love to be wrong.

For No. I Think youre getting mixed up with the signing of Fablolly Ravioli.

Getting the train your better getting a taxi to the ground mate.

See you the morrow then mate

No worries mate - we all want whats best for the club and everyone has their own opinion. Both I heard, they punted Mathie and made him the scapegoat and in time recruitment has got worse. Seems the thing to do just now is blame the past on everything even when ' nothing to suggest replacements have improved. They wanted Ross out for their own guy, fair enough if someone was lined up! Instead we ended up with a yes man rookie coach way out his depth. Again loans, money that will be repaid. Why doesn't he put his money at his ideas? Gets to do whatever he wants and doesnt lose a penny long term doesn't sit right with me. He doesn't have to be accountable for anything in that case and everyone else pays the price including the support. Wouldn't care personally if on the pitch it was working but hes already admitted recently we are way behind Hertz and Aberdeen in terms of income coming into the club. How can that be with 5k more season tickets sold than AFC if Ben is doing such a wonderful job? If Ian Gordon doesn't have as much say as we think on transfers then who else does? Whos part of recruitment or are we not meant to know? There is no hate, they are just doing a really really shit job for the first team and have done since Gordon came in. We shouldn't need to compensate for bottom 6, it simply shouldn't have happened. You pick out James Scott the one signing they made but miss out the loads of shit Gordon has brought to the club including Chris the American Shitemare Mueller and the money he was on. Not a loan signing like Scott. Bottom 6 was because Jack didn't get the backing, brought in Shaun fkn Maloney and signed him a pocket full of piss while selling Boyle. Peace now as its getting me down reallising and highlighting how utter shan its got and theres no improvement on the horizon.

Remi Matthews to have the game of the season on Saturday then rank the rest then!

So much for the new and improved comms team. Everything was shit when Ron came in and new everything top notch so he blabs. Apart from actual commutation about the important things like away tickets for supporters and communicating that Rocky is suspended for a game and cant play.

Yes. We won the Scottish Cup a couple of years before he came in. There was the platform to build. All washed away to the current state. Even the season before last finished 3rd, time to build and improve...in comes Ian Gordon, rips everything up, Ross ddnt agree, got sacked and look at the mess now. "Rockys been decent this season" against part time pap we still lost out to in the LC groups. The boy is utter pap and will be found out big time next week. STF wrote off a lot of money and also cleared money loaned to the club for the stands. Rons put in nothing much to the club. The money he paid to purchase it doesnt go to the club. So far yes, but over time the money will be paid back. Hardly a gift or personal investment. Lets not pretend Rons putting his own cash into the club. I wonder why not? Hardly skint is the guy but wants his cash back while letting his son play football manager with the footballing side that has went so far backwards over the past year. All these new commercial partnerships are fine and dandy but are nothing in comparison with crap cup runs, no European football and losses from finishing bottom 6 and missing the cash from a home match v Herz and Celtc.