Zern
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12 minutes ago, Left Back said:
Figuring out who he’s going to stab in the back in the upcoming leadership contest.
FTFY
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Snap election or Boris resigns?
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11 hours ago, Granny Danger said:
Everything else aside the Labour Party are tactically inept. Their inability to judge public opinion is bordering on frightening.
What a time to start backing Brexit, just as everything starts to reach peak clusterfuck.
He'll be showing everyone his fidget-spinner next.
It is also ridiculous. His policy appears to be aligning closer to EU without actually joining, yet that means the UK remains outside the EU trade bloc and cannot progress the membership application to the CPTPP trade bloc. The worst of both worlds.
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46 minutes ago, Clown Job said:
They’ve been promising this for as long as I can remember
They really should be called out for it, cause we know they are serious especially as they keep electing people to it
Tony was going to do this, it was one of their manifesto pledges way back when. They didn't manage it when they were popular, unlikely to happen today. I think that's why it was handed down to Anas to announce, it just a turd repolished.
QuoteSarwar said: “Labour will do no deal with the SNP.
“No deal. No pact. No behind-closed-doors arrangement. No coalition. At the next election, we will be fighting for every vote and we are aiming to form a majority Labour government. Should we fall short of that, and be in a position to form a minority government, the SNP will face a simple choice.
“It can choose to keep the Tories in power, or choose to back a Labour government. And I dare Nicola Sturgeon to back the Tories and put them back in power, and see how Scotland responds.”
I don't forsee a SNP contingent at Westminster who sticks to their demands and places Labour in uncomfortable position as being quite the vote-loser he thinks it would be. In any event, my hunch is that Labour are so thirsty for power that they would immediately fold like the cheap suits they are and if Anas' words were brought to their attention it would be pointed out that Anas is not the Leader of the Labour Party and is just a sub-functionary who can be safely ignored.
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A 'managed' opposition. Sir Kier Starmer and Sir Ed Davey may be promising change but really they are there to maintain the hierarchy and establishment.
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I'm not sure how broad the remit is, although the initial groundwork being done by the Lord Advocate may allow for more considerations. Cherry appears to think so.
I was thinking that perhaps they could take a middle ground and judge that some sort of constitutional settlement be worked out between the governments, but that seems to be covered by the s30 request that remains open.
This judgement will have wider ramifications. Especially on the GFA and the settlement regarding Northern Ireland as this request by Scotland follows the same process there. Elections to legislative power and the ability to pass mandated policies. Sinn Fein would be running on a mandate like this and were they in the position to do what the First Minister of Scotland could do, they would.
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Sturgeon is clearly playing the long con.
Post-independence she will reveal her true colours.
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1 hour ago, Clown Job said:
Daily Express Headline: Brexit Britain Breaks New Records! EU envious.
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Progressive or liberal democracies are not inevitable, it takes effort and good legislation to maintain. The SNP/Greens have discussions about the process of democracy, and the ideals that propel the drafting of legislation. They highlight the democratic deficit. They've reached out to other nations and looked to co-operate with a UK government that simply will not listen. Sinn Fein and the Irish Government are in a similar position. They've engaged with process of democracy and negotiated settlement, only to watch as it is being thrown out by the UK in favour of its own form of authoritarian rule that over-rides international agreements. It doesn't help much that the Tories are incompetent, that they can do it is the problem. The Scottish Parliament can't pass illegal legislation in that manner without challenge.
Biggest worry at the present time is that Liz, Priti, Raaab et al will begin a 2nd Crimean War or reignite the Troubles. Combined, they are stupid, careless, cruel, and arrogant enough to do so.
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3 hours ago, Kenneth840 said:
I don't think so either, and even if it does allow it the UK government will change the Scotland act so that the Scottish parliament can't hold one.
That's when plan c comes into play. Plebiscite election.
Scotland wins.
Article penned by Joanna Cherry mentioned that the Keatings thing you mentioned may be allowed representation in this case, now that it is no longer a hypothetical.
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Truly nothing is off the table, or the couch, or the stationary cupboard...
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1 minute ago, renton said:
You probably think Atlas Shrugged is a bit Pinko as well?
Rishi Sunak is a fan or hers. Kind of awful to contemplate that your economic future is dependent on some rich kid's pretensions.
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3 minutes ago, BFTD said:
I'm about as hardcore a Yes voter as you'll find, and have been since I was too young to vote.
If somebody could promise me that I'd never again hear the appalling portmanteaux of "Scexit" and Brexit, I'd vote No and wear Union Fleg knickers for the rest of my life.
Brown uses it liberally, but ultimately it's a 2014 argument. It was used to say that if we voted YES would exit the UK, the EU and be isolated with barriers between us and our trading partners. That came true with Brexit, and the fundamental change is that the indy movement aligned more strongly towards joining the EU to reverse the damage caused.
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5 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said:
The explanation of what the Unionists think Scotland is supposed to do appears to be the same as what BoJo may have said to his mistress, now his wife, a couple of years ago when he was Foreign Secretary... "suck it up, baby, suck it up".
With added insult that our consent is neither wanted nor needed.
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Scexit is not a thing. Brexit showed the folly of those who want isolation, we're joining the EU.. so going in the opposite direction to Brexitland/rUK.
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4 hours ago, DrewDon said:
"Do we really want a country that is split down the middle?" always makes me laugh. We have a country that is split down the middle on independence regardless of whether a referendum in 2023 actually happens or not.
They don't mind being split down the middle so long as its the indy half that's ignored do they.
Watched a bit of QT, some of the audience were quick enough to point out the unionists had lost the electorate's support and the SNP were the ones listening to what they wanted, a referendum.
Hoy's media training showed, that right hand closed with the thumb on top is something Blair did.
Pam Duncan-Glancy i did not like. She is very critical but skims over the fact that if Labour have not a single policy for Scotland and would not actually do anything if elected to a position greater than opposition. The fact that The Labour Party are blocking access to the ballot box is nothing short of a disgrace.
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1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said:
International Law like the NI Protocol?
Well, uh, yes.
TBF the UK will suffer consequences as a results of their dicking around with the NIP.
There would not be similar repercussions were they to disband Wales.
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30 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:
Oh, aye, leaving us out of it, as usual...
International law would prevent them tampering with Stormont in the same casual manner.
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20 minutes ago, btb said:
I think there are less undecideds now, speaking anecotally I don't know many people who have changed their mind on the issue since 2014 so we'll be looking at shifting demographics to give YES a majority.
My own opinion is that if NO was confident they would go for 2023 and try to campaign positively for the Union, that is if they have any positive arguments - all I hear from them is "we were promised it was once in a generation in 2014" and a repeat of the Project Fear claims.
Will there be the same level of support from down south where the three big parties (plus David Bowie) were all singing from the same sheet and any dissenting voices kept quiet - I reckon not. That leaves us with the first rate mind of D Ross to defend the Union which does give me some confidence.
I also go back to an episode of the Andrew Marr show where Brian Cox where he was pleading with Kier Starmer to convince him that he should reverse his decision to support Independence only to be disappointed.
That's it, the argument is being held by the indy side on the terms we want in the manner we want. What opposition there has been has seemed thinly reasoned out, with no attempt to describe any real benefits of continued UK membership. It swings from pure denial, to triumphalism at the thought of crushing those uppity scots.
The UK plans to turn our human rights into "british" rights doesn't fill me with confidence, because what happens to those deemed less than british? No rights for those unfortunates. But that's okay cos they is all people smugglers and criminals and shit. Not sure i see it as a sign of good governance when elsewhere they are looking to avoid their obligations under international law.
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1 hour ago, Stellaboz said:
Plan? Usual score tactics, blurring facts and simple lying again no doubt from the no campaign.
They will try. It just won't work as well now. How can you scare us with austerity, or brexit when that is the policy that is being pursued by UK government?
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59 minutes ago, Suspect Device said:
Only 2 Tories on this week. That's unusual.
I have no idea who Craig Hoy is. Or Pam Duncan-Glancy. I wonder why Sarwar or DRoss are not on?
Edit: Just checked. The Tory and Labour MSPs are from the newest intake to Holyrood.
Edit2: It's in Inverness. Fingers crossed for another appearance from QT gold.
Craig Hoy was on debate night and was that chap who got owned by Lesley Riddoch. He has the media training, but is an idiot thankfully. He will go far. Potentially their next leader.
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58 minutes ago, strichener said:
Very silly? Take me through the exact process whereby the ICJ can force the UK to do absolutely anything that the UK does not want to do. Spell it out step by step.
Very very silly. The ICJ enforces its decisions the same way the EU does, participation, negotiation, consent and legislation. The decisions by the international courts are written into UK law and in doing so recognise the higher court's authority. The UK cannot, for example, legalise genocide and escape prosecution by a higher court.
QuoteNobody has claimed that the EU can extinguish member states but it also did not recognise Scotland as a country when we were a member so I am not sure what point you are trying to make. The parliament of Scotland does not somehow make Scotland a nation, it will continue to exist as such in the event that the parliament is dissolved. So how can the UK extinguish Scotland as a nation?
The UK and EU are not equivalent. Membership comes with recognition, and limits to what the EU can and cannot do directly. The UK government could, in theory, pass primary legislation to wholesale roll back all devolved powers and bodies in both Wales and Scotland. In that respect the EU is a better union than the UK.
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The normalisation of the far-right continues
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I don't think you've ever responded meaningfully. Superficial cheerleader is about your level.