Quentin Taranbino Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 I love that the next episode in the states is called 'motherfucker in the turban' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 we are far into the realms of nonsense now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Jumped the shark big time this sunday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 we are far into the realms of nonsense now. We were never far outside nonsense. Great show though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 It was always going to be outside the realm of authenticity. The common sense though is ridiculously erratic. Aye, Quinn is just going to believe that Carrie escaped for the number one terrorist in the world? Nae bother. Good scene with Roja though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 We were never far outside nonsense. Great show though. the cia not bothering to watch brody or tap his phone is beyond stupid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Sundays episode was great, for a couple of episodes there I thought it was drifting a little and fears were growing that it could go the way of Lost,Prison Break,Heroes etc.... great start but all falls away halfway through season 2 , looks like I was wrong.......PLEASING! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Hutchwright Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 we are far into the realms of nonsense now. Jumped the shark big time this sunday. Aye, I'm willing to suspend disbelief up to a point but it's just been far too silly. There's been a massive drop in quality from the first season, and I'm now only barely hanging in there to see how it all pans out. For all it's ludicrousness, the swines are still adept at including the occasional scene which effectively ramps up the tension though. Tense but nonsensical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 the cia not bothering to watch brody or tap his phone is beyond stupid. The most glaring one is the terrorists stopping Saul on the way back to America to take the memory card with Brody's suicide tape on it off him. They done this knowing full well that the CIA had seen it and knew he was a terrorist, yet they still continue to tell him sensitive information. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I can see this going very similarly to the early 24 series. Season 1 was tightly plotted, a fairly small threat centered around a small cast of characters - very similar to Season 1 of Homeland (within reason). Season 2 grew the threat and turned up a bit of the ridiculousness as a result. Homeland seems to be following this pattern. Having said that though, it's still brilliant. The acting for the most part has been fantastic - Brody, Carrie and Saul all deserve massive credit. The former because, like well fan said, you're now rooting for the terrorist. Wouldn't be possible without the believable performance. Danes has been brilliant too, and always plays the character just right. She could easily stray away from straddling between sane/crazy, but she manages to keep it just on that line - makes it all the better performance. The scene where she stole the guy's phone in the last C4 episode and ended up running down the road with him chasing her struck me as oddly hilarious given her mental state. The one unsung hero in the show though for me is Saul. Some may say he's a pretty boring character as he very rarely shows his emotions, but there have been a few times where he's been able to show that he's actually a very good actor. One of my favourite characters on the show. Anyway, I'm still on Channel 4 time, although with Sports Personality of the Year on Sunday, I may watch the finale a little earlier. It'll be interesting to see where they go with it - they've certainly sprung some surprises along the way. I imagined this would be the episode they uncovered Brody, but to do that way back in episode 3 was a ballsy move. Now it looks as though Nazir is out there on his own, and the way they left the last episode seems to suggest Carrie will be back in the firing line. With season 3 on the horizon, I can't see them capturing Nazir. I would much prefer a third season to wrap up the two that have gone before rather than bring in a whole new plotline. One thing I do hope for though - please make the third series the last. Please don't overplay this. It's been great, but if it goes into latter-stages-of-24 levels of lunacy, it'll be a big shame. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 The most glaring one is the terrorists stopping Saul on the way back to America to take the memory card with Brody's suicide tape on it off him. They done this knowing full well that the CIA had seen it and knew he was a terrorist, yet they still continue to tell him sensitive information. But it wasn't the terrorists directly though, or it was never stated. He was leaving Lebanon, so it would have been the Palestinian Security Forces that confiscated the tape. They may not have known what was on it either, and couldn't have assumed that Saul would have watched it either. They could have thought that with the tape in their possession, they would have nothing to go on, and no proof of Brody being a terrorist. All conjecture though. The bigger plothole around that is how the tape actually got to Lebanon. Brody buries it somewhere in suburban Washington D.C., fast forward a year or so to Season 2 and its suddenly in Lebanon? I hope they explain that in the finale because it's a pretty big plot point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) One thing I do hope for though - please make the third series the last. Please don't overplay this. It's been great, but if it goes into latter-stages-of-24 levels of lunacy, it'll be a big shame. Dunno, i reckon they can wrap up the Nazir threat and go into a third series with the politics at the CIA the focus. Estes and Quinn's involvement etc. Edit to say: Dunno where they write Brodie into this though as he's soon gonna have no job. Edited December 11, 2012 by Christophe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I can see this going very similarly to the early 24 series. Season 1 was tightly plotted, a fairly small threat centered around a small cast of characters - very similar to Season 1 of Homeland (within reason). Season 2 grew the threat and turned up a bit of the ridiculousness as a result. Homeland seems to be following this pattern. Having said that though, it's still brilliant. The acting for the most part has been fantastic - Brody, Carrie and Saul all deserve massive credit. The former because, like well fan said, you're now rooting for the terrorist. Wouldn't be possible without the believable performance. Danes has been brilliant too, and always plays the character just right. She could easily stray away from straddling between sane/crazy, but she manages to keep it just on that line - makes it all the better performance. The scene where she stole the guy's phone in the last C4 episode and ended up running down the road with him chasing her struck me as oddly hilarious given her mental state. The one unsung hero in the show though for me is Saul. Some may say he's a pretty boring character as he very rarely shows his emotions, but there have been a few times where he's been able to show that he's actually a very good actor. One of my favourite characters on the show. Anyway, I'm still on Channel 4 time, although with Sports Personality of the Year on Sunday, I may watch the finale a little earlier. It'll be interesting to see where they go with it - they've certainly sprung some surprises along the way. I imagined this would be the episode they uncovered Brody, but to do that way back in episode 3 was a ballsy move. Now it looks as though Nazir is out there on his own, and the way they left the last episode seems to suggest Carrie will be back in the firing line. With season 3 on the horizon, I can't see them capturing Nazir. I would much prefer a third season to wrap up the two that have gone before rather than bring in a whole new plotline. One thing I do hope for though - please make the third series the last. Please don't overplay this. It's been great, but if it goes into latter-stages-of-24 levels of lunacy, it'll be a big shame. Good post, I agree with much of this - I read that danes and Lewis had signed up for five seasons - how can you get 3 more years after this? I'm on c4 time as well. I've accepted that the show has been nonsense for a while, but the conversation between Carrie and Nazir was a particular lowlight. Still very enjoyable though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Dunno, i reckon they can wrap up the Nazir threat and go into a third series with the politics at the CIA the focus. Estes and Quinn's involvement etc. That would be a bold,clever move, The appeal of the show to the masses seems to be built around the Lewis-Danes relationship though, so it's hard to seeb them doing a Wire and writing such main characters out of the picture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadStar Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Officially can't be fucked with this anymore, after that last ep. I'll probably watch the finale next week and be done with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 But it wasn't the terrorists directly though, or it was never stated. He was leaving Lebanon, so it would have been the Palestinian Security Forces that confiscated the tape. They may not have known what was on it either, and couldn't have assumed that Saul would have watched it either. They could have thought that with the tape in their possession, they would have nothing to go on, and no proof of Brody being a terrorist. All conjecture though. The bigger plothole around that is how the tape actually got to Lebanon. Brody buries it somewhere in suburban Washington D.C., fast forward a year or so to Season 2 and its suddenly in Lebanon? I hope they explain that in the finale because it's a pretty big plot point. But surely even if there was the slightest hint that the CIA were onto them they'd have cut all ties? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shire Voice Of Reason Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Why didn't any of the CIA people talk to the news-reporter / terrorist woman once they had caught her. Surely they would have? You know, just in case she knew anything? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par-NO1 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 ^^^the series isn't finished yet.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Can't see how they're going to tie this series up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Par-NO1 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Will they need to though? I think they might just keep it open for Series 3. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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