JamieStevenson Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Inb4 Reigns wins by disqualification Bork Laser to hopefully return and destroy everybody 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieStevenson Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Fair play, especially on a Raw show and a great one at that too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Imagine if Ambrose wins the rumble setting up Roman-Ambrose for the title at WM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bernardblack Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Scenes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 As someone who is massively frustrated with WWE at the moment....... that was actually a good episode of Raw! Finally! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Great to see them get the timing utterly spot on with Reigns this time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Great to see them get the timing utterly spot on with Reigns this time. Was it though? Could they not just have moved the story they had on TLC and RAW back so that the payoff happened on the PPV rather than the day after? Just seems a bit baws for those that shelled out full price for TLC (close to $50 apparently, for those that can't/won't get the network) only for the big payoff to happen on free TV. If this was their plan, I'd have had a title match on the go-home RAW, and play it out like they had the TLC match go. Reigns attacks Trips as they go off air, and then Reigns is given the "win-or-you're-fired" match on Sunday night. He wins, jobs a good 'un. I can't help but feel they've ruined what could've been good momentum from the events of TLC by completely changing gear the next day. Where does Seamus go from here after managing only three weeks as Champion? Who is the pick for the Rumble now that it's a face champion? I can see it being Brock brought back to face Reigns again, which will completely undermine any work to get Reigns over, as Brock will automatically be more over. Still, it's certainly sounding like a better RAW than usual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum-ayr Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The Reigns McMahon promo just gave me flashbacks of Austin McMahon. Great to see a good PPV followed by a good Raw. Buzzing Reigns and Ambrose are champs! Would be good to see another title in the diva division. It's getting boring the same faces for the same title. Another one added in to freshen up the fights would be good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 They finally book Reigns like a badass and he gets over instantly. All they have to do now is keep him away from the mic until Wrestlemania. It would have been the end of him if he hadn't retaliated to Vince's assault last night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 Reigns looked like he was away to burst into tears when he threw his scadge at TLC. I just can't buy into him at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 You know things are desperate when they hotshot the belt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 You know things are desperate when Vince McMahon comes back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 McMahon vs Reigns for the belt at the Royal Rumble with Trips kayfabe injured? McMahon to win the belt, obviously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepundit Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 You know things are desperate when Vince McMahon comes back. Agreed. He was the highlight of Raw yesterday though. Hopefully it wasn't just a one off. Vince and Shane vs the Authority in a power struggle would be an awesome storyline. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
port-ton Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Was it though? Could they not just have moved the story they had on TLC and RAW back so that the payoff happened on the PPV rather than the day after? Just seems a bit baws for those that shelled out full price for TLC (close to $50 apparently, for those that can't/won't get the network) only for the big payoff to happen on free TV. If this was their plan, I'd have had a title match on the go-home RAW, and play it out like they had the TLC match go. Reigns attacks Trips as they go off air, and then Reigns is given the "win-or-you're-fired" match on Sunday night. He wins, jobs a good 'un. I can't help but feel they've ruined what could've been good momentum from the events of TLC by completely changing gear the next day. Where does Seamus go from here after managing only three weeks as Champion? Who is the pick for the Rumble now that it's a face champion? I can see it being Brock brought back to face Reigns again, which will completely undermine any work to get Reigns over, as Brock will automatically be more over. Still, it's certainly sounding like a better RAW than usual. I'd say it was timed perfectly. To have Reigns win the title in the same city he was booed out of town in last year at the royal rumble and have the fans cheer this time shows they played it absolutely spot on. I didn't think they had it in them to pull something like that put the bag anymore, which makes it all the more frustrating how awful creative usually is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I'd say it was timed perfectly. To have Reigns win the title in the same city he was booed out of town in last year at the royal rumble and have the fans cheer this time shows they played it absolutely spot on. I didn't think they had it in them to pull something like that put the bag anymore, which makes it all the more frustrating how awful creative usually is. Yeah, suppose that's fair enough. I hadn't twigged the Philly connection from last year. As a slight nit-pick I wouldn't say the reception back then was entirely down to Reigns - it was more down to the fact that it had been one of the most spitefully terrible Royal Rumbles there had ever been. Had Bryan gotten down to the final few, or even just been eliminated in a bigger spot, along with the other favourites, then the reception wouldn't have been as bad. Still pretty bad though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Hopefully this Reigns feud with Triple H will finally be the endgame for The Authority. I'm sure I seen somewhere that they have now been running the show longer than all other previous kayfabe authority figures put together. Stephanie especially needs some sort of comeuppance. She gets to berate everyone on the roster without anybody being allowed to have any sort of revenge against her. I think only Ronda Rousey has been allowed to have the upperhand on her since The Authority began. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 RAW is always better when Vince is on TV. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Hopefully this Reigns feud with Triple H will finally be the endgame for The Authority. I'm sure I seen somewhere that they have now been running the show longer than all other previous kayfabe authority figures put together. Stephanie especially needs some sort of comeuppance. She gets to berate everyone on the roster without anybody being allowed to have any sort of revenge against her. I think only Ronda Rousey has been allowed to have the upperhand on her since The Authority began. You could argue that Bryan did towards the end of his planned story. The only reason the Authority went back over then was because he got injured and had to vacate. Had he been healthy of course, we've no idea what their plans were, but he ended fairly well up on the authority. It very well could be the end though. Certainly an interesting point, and doing a bit of fantasy booking, there's several really epic storylines you could do with it leading up to Wrestlemania. But the downside is always going to be what replaces it. I don't trust them to fully follow through with something. Last time they destroyed the authority, they were back as soon as Rollins forced Cena to do it while threatening Edge. Would they really do it for good? If Bryan does have to retire, or even go more part-time, then they could do far, far worse than to bring him in as a face general manager. By all means have a heel element, but take it back to something different. And it would keep a very talented performer who is probably still going to be massively over in the company, rather than losing him to the indies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Agreed. He was the highlight of Raw yesterday though. Hopefully it wasn't just a one off. Vince and Shane vs the Authority in a power struggle would be an awesome storyline. No it wouldn't. That would be horrendous and boring Edited December 15, 2015 by DA Baracus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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