ICTChris Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Holland considers ban on away fans Matt Scott Tuesday April 19, 2005 The Guardian Dutch football authorities are considering banning away fans following serious rioting that occurred before Sunday's Feyenoord versus Ajax game at the De Kuip stadium, won 3-2 by the Amsterdam club. Discussions are under way between the Dutch legislative and football authorities to tackle the growing hooliganism problem in Holland. The two clubs have long been rivals - one Ajax fan was stabbed to death in 1997 - but consensus for change has risen with the arrest of 43 fans following the clashes which resulted in injuries to seven police and three supporters. Ajax hooligans wrecked two trains carrying them from Amsterdam shortly before they arrived at the station near Feyenoord's ground in Rotterdam. The mayors of Amsterdam and Rotterdam took the decision to lock the Ajax fans out of the stadium. But they refused to dissipate from the station and trouble flared when fans from Feyenoord descended on them there. "The group on the station didn't leave before the end of the match, so after the game the Feyenoord fans were looking for a confrontation, which forced us to make a baton charge to clear up the situation around the train station," said Hans Stoop of the Rotterdam police service. In a separate incident two Feyenoord fans were seriously injured and hospitalised by a home-made firework "bomb". The question now for the Dutch football federation (KNVB) and government is what measures can be taken to prevent a repeat. The KNVB and its member clubs are believed to favour the implementation of a UK-style football-disorder law involving intelligence-led policing and the use of all-seater stadiums with CCTV cameras and numbered seating to identify troublemakers inside the ground. Banning orders could then be issued. The Dutch government has resisted this idea since it was first proposed two years ago, preferring instead the outright banning of away fans from all football grounds. Surprisingly there is understood to be widespread support from clubs for this extreme measure. But a rising hooliganism problem is not isolated to Holland. Flares rained down on Milan's goalkeeper Dida in the Champions League derby with Internazionale last week, prompting the referee Markus Merk to abandon the match. Roma fans contrived to have their derby against Lazio called off last March after issuing death threats to the players, the same club at which a Champions League match was abandoned after the referee Anders Frisk was struck by a coin earlier this season. Germany has also seen a recent rise in hooliganism, an added cause for concern as it will host next year's World Cup finals. Last month around 200 fans caused trouble at a friendly match against Slovenia in Celje, damaging cars and shops before the match and clashing with police and throwing flares on to the pitch during it. I have heard quite a few stories about Feyenoord fans, I know people who were at ibrox when their fans started attacking the Rangers section, apparently it was a mental night in and around the ground. Sections of Ajax fans aren't renowned for their good behaviour either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordie_Elvis Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 My brother got glassed whilst on the phone to his lass, outside a bar in Feyenoord a couple of years back. It was an area set aside for the Toon fans and was surrounded by police, around 20 dutch fans burst through and chucked a load of bottles, 3 boys got hit, needed stiches and missed the game. The Dutch and the Italians are the worst in Europe for this sort of behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arab_joe Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 The Dutch and the Italians are the worst in Europe for this sort of behaviour. 475219[/snapback] there is nothing like a sweeping generalisation... are England not quite often involved with hollaginism? on a serious note, there seems to be a bit of a trend at the moment with fans becoming violent. bit worrying, though im sure us arabs will behave when we take on the continent next year! one of the first teams in europe to be guaranteed european football... saw that boca juniors decided to have a wee tunnnel brawl when they got beat 2-0 about a month ago- maybe the players have something to asnswer for- after all they are idols to thousands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 It must have been Chelsea or Stoke fans. Just like it was during the Aberdeen - Rangers game a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thebullywee Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 The Dutch and the Italians are the worst in Europe for this sort of behaviour. 475219[/snapback] In the past couple of years, these fans have taken over England's bad name IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetooner Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 The major difference is, (and this should be applauded) England are doing very well in their attempts to rid the game of these idiots, whereas Italy and Holland and Turkey etc dont give a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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