H_B Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Also - what exactly are you suggesting would happen if Scotland seceded in 2016 to both Scotland and the rUK? I know you need to find a blog to copy (as you haven't the first idea what you are talking about) but go find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Answer his question. Or else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Also - what exactly are you suggesting would happen if Scotland seceded in 2016 to both Scotland and the rUK? I know you need to find a blog to copy (as you haven't the first idea what you are talking about) but go find one. You keep asking this question and I have told you I have no clue what you mean? With regard to what specifically? And dont say International Law. What exactly is your point here? If you are referring to membership of various International organisations then my assumption is Scotland will negotiate entry prior to Independence and the rUK will continue although losing Scottish Oil reserves, fishing waters and a storage for the largest collection of Nuclear Weapons in Europe may require a review of the rUK's terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Politics never fails to bring out the worst in people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinFighter Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 We need xbl back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Also - what exactly are you suggesting would happen if Scotland seceded in 2016 to both Scotland and the rUK? I know you need to find a blog to copy (as you haven't the first idea what you are talking about) but go find one. What would happen is we would get into the EU. No ? That is the crux of the matter is it not? I watched an hour and a half of a QandA session last night and not once was the legalities of EU membership mentioned. Only would we get in and like you have already stated, we will get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 What would happen is we would get into the EU. No ? That is the crux of the matter is it not? I watched an hour and a half of a QandA session last night and not once was the legalities of EU membership mentioned. Only would we get in and like you have already stated, we will get in. As has been pointed out previously the biggest and really the only threat to Scotland being in the EU in the medium term is if we vote NO and the Westminster govt holds it's proposed In/out referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Did XBL get banned or quit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 As has been pointed out previously the biggest and really the only threat to Scotland being in the EU in the medium term is if we vote NO and the Westminster govt holds it's proposed In/out referendum. Agreed. We will be welcomed with open arms. Like Denmark said it would be ridiculous to welcome Croatia and not Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 No no no no no !!!!!!!!1! We need a bazillion word essay on each and every law that we will ever come across during our separation negotiations. Idiot !!!!!!1! Ahh sorry. I neglected the importance of tedious negotiations that will never witness ourselves..... My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Did XBL get banned or quit? It's called a ban, I think he just needed a break to take care of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 If you are referring to membership of various International organisations then my assumption is Scotland will negotiate entry prior to Independence Right. So the whole Claim of Right nonsense meant what exactly? And answer the question - are you saying you understand UK constitutional law better than Matthew Happold - yes or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Right. So the whole Claim of Right nonsense meant what exactly? And answer the question - are you saying you understand UK constitutional law better than Matthew Happold - yes or no? Who gives a shit. Even burma is avoiding your repetitive pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 As has been pointed out previously the biggest and really the only threat to Scotland being in the EU in the medium term is if we vote NO and the Westminster govt holds it's proposed In/out referendum. You mean the tory government? No other party liable to form a government is offering anything of the sort on Europe. What do you think are the chancesof the tories managing to form a majority government in 2015 and why do you think they will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 You have zero credibility here now. You dont understand what Claim of Right means. The clue is in the name. Is Lord Hope right or wrong? The Claim of Right, made by, uh, the Scottish Parliament, is the Scottish Parliament claiming the right to recognise or not to recognise the monarch pursuant to fulfilling statutory conditions. Like the Bill of Rights in England. It asserts Parliamentary sovereignty over the king. End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Right. So the whole Claim of Right nonsense meant what exactly? And answer the question - are you saying you understand UK constitutional law better than Matthew Happold - yes or no? The Claim of Right has nothing whatsoever to do with EU membership. What quantum leap are you attempting here? And once again I ask you to define "UK constitutional law" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 You mean the tory government? No other party liable to form a government is offering anything of the sort on Europe. What do you think are the chancesof the tories managing to form a majority government in 2015 and why do you think they will? Ehhh greater than the chances of Scotland being refused EU membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 The Claim of Right, made by, uh, the Scottish Parliament, is the Scottish Parliament claiming the right to recognise or not to recognise the monarch pursuant to fulfilling statutory conditions. Like the Bill of Rights in England. It asserts Parliamentary sovereignty over the king. End. Wrong wrong wrong. The Claim of Right was when the People of Scotland (an oversimplified term when placed in the context of the day) claimed the right to remove the crown from the King. Ascension to the throne was by assent of the people not a divine right. The Right being claimed was the right of sovereignty. sigh. this is basic stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Ehhh greater than the chances of Scotland being refused EU membership. And about the same as the chances of yes winning this referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingsoverperthshire Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 And about the same as the chances of yes winning this referendum. ^^Rattled as the polls close in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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