P45 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 And they call BT project fear. Pot, kettle and black. That list isn't far off what is happening right now tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 When I see the lists of negative things from Yes voters here I have to wonder what the real project fear is. I'll help you - it's UKOKNOTHANKSBETTERTOGETHER - if you don't see the fear eminating from them at a vastly more massive rate than Yes, you're either blinkered or not willing to be balanced. As for ThePundit, his mewlings get more and more pathetic as he goes on. Bleating on about not getting answers, yet not wanting to discover answers for himself. If it wasn't so ridiculous, I'd laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 That's not project fear, everything I've listed is realistic, most of it already happening Really? Can you illustrate which in your list of utter fearmongering nonsense is "already happening"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 When I see the lists of negative things from Yes voters here I have to wonder what the real project fear is. My god. Like I said elsewhere, no voters, eyes shut and fingers in ears nanana not listening. Embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 ^^^^blinkered. It's a bit embarrassing for H_B all told. I only hope that no one responds. We don't need further pages being bogged down in semantics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 As much as UKOKBTNOTHANKSSCOTLANDPLEASEDONTGO has been scaremongering a lot, the NHS being dismantled crap is just that as well. Horrible tactics from both sides of the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 As much as UKOKBTNOTHANKSSCOTLANDPLEASEDONTGO has been scaremongering a lot, the NHS being dismantled crap is just that as well. Horrible tactics from both sides of the campaign. Do you deny the English NHS is being sold off piece by piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Do you deny the English NHS is being sold off piece by piece? I think that it is being marginalised a little, however I think that the principle of free healthcare will remain and that the Scottish NHS will remain Scottish. The NHS is a bit out of touch anyway, it's disgusting that I have to pay several grand to get my eyes lazered in the private sector yet plastic surgery and sex changes are funded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I think that it is being marginalised a little, however I think that the principle of free healthcare will remain and that the Scottish NHS will remain Scottish. The NHS is a bit out of touch anyway, it's disgusting that I have to pay several grand to get my eyes lazered in the private sector yet plastic surgery and sex changes are funded. FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Maybe you should have a read at this: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/farewell-to-the-nhs-19482013-a-dear-and-trusted-friend-finally-murdered-by-tory-ideologues-8555503.html One thing you cannot say is that this is fear mongering propaganda from the Yes campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 FFS What's wrong with finding that disgusting? My poor sight is a disability, needing a sex change isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Maybe you should have a read at this: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/farewell-to-the-nhs-19482013-a-dear-and-trusted-friend-finally-murdered-by-tory-ideologues-8555503.html One thing you cannot say is that this is fear mongering propaganda from the Yes campaign. Not by the yes campaign, but it's still left wing biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 What's wrong with finding that disgusting? My poor sight is a disability, needing a sex change isn't. And that's why you should vote No. You're too right wing for a progressive iScotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 And that's why you should vote No. You're too right wing for a progressive iScotland. What's right wing about thinking that poor sight should be funded and sex changes should not? Be very specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 So in the paragraph that says "Under the Government’s Section 75 regulations – even after they were revised after huge political pressure – all NHS services must be put out to competitive tender unless the commissioning groups are satisfied a “single provider” can deliver that service." That doesn't sound like privatisation to you? And what about this next paragraph: "Indeed, were they to refrain from doing so, they would risk a costly legal battle. As over a thousand doctors and nurses warned last month, the regulations will “force virtually every part of the English NHS to be opened up to the private sector”. A free-for-all in the English NHS beckons." These are direct quotes from government legislation. And you still think the article is left wing biased? Even if it is left wing biased, doesn't this spell out privatisation to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 What's right wing about thinking that poor sight should be funded and sex changes should not? Be very specific. You're intolerant of others as evidenced many times on this forum. You share similar views with Daily Mail readers. That specific enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 What's right wing about thinking that poor sight should be funded and sex changes should not? Be very specific. Have you not ever considered BUYING specs, like what most normal people do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Have you not ever considered BUYING specs, like what most normal people do? That involves spending money on healthcare, you know, healthcare that's supposed to be "free at the point of need" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 That involves spending money on healthcare, you know, healthcare that's supposed to be "free at the point of need" FFS how long has eye care, including free lazer surgery (FFS), been available? Go to Specsavers and don't be so selfish! At least we get free eye tests, you should be happy with that. Complaining that lazer eye surgery should be free is just mental. You're at the wind up here, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Actual privatisation of the NHS would be when you spend a week in hospital and the doctor demands to see your insurance documents or bills you on the spot. The government contracting a private firm rather than hiring doctors directly isn't privatisation, it's just a way of saving money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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