Torbane Terror Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Red United do you have someone in mind? We could always sell it to the Council and build our own 3G pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Just 6-7 years. Whitburn started the ball rolling on their redevelopment program in 2001 I think. But I suppose owning their own park has something do to with not being able to raise the funds necessary. These days it is very difficult for a stand alone football club to obtain funds/grants whatever, you need to demonstrate benefit to the community, kids involvement etc before you get a penny. I believe the redevelopment of Albyn Park took 8 years from having the idea to moving in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 If you're looking for a funding opportunity for your group or organisation, come along to Howden Park Centre between 3.30pm and 6.30pm on Monday 22 September.That's when you'll be able to meet representatives from a range of funding providers including Big Lottery Fund, Heritage Lottery, Lloyds TSB Foundation, Children in Need, Land Trust and Coalfields Regeneration Trust. There will also be information available about local sports and arts grants. You can drop in at any time to get information and speak to funders and advisors, there is no need to book.In addition to the information stalls, there will two Funding Workshops on offer.• Workshop 1: 4pm - 5pmFacing your funding fears -an insider’s guide to funding. At this workshop you will get helpful funding tips and advice from the funders themselves. • Workshop 2: 5.15pm - 6.15pmBeyond the usual suspects -an alternative funding workshop. At this workshop you will learn about alternative approaches to funding and fundraising. For more information and to book a workshop place please email douglas.grierson@westlothian.gov.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy@dunbar Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 New Murrayfield Park (or the Dem-Master Community Stadium as we must now call it) is Council owned and leased to Blackburn United Community Football Club, all the clubs teams use the facilities and where possible, use the main pitch when conditions allow for it. Hopefully, fingers crossed, this will be a 3G pitch this time next year so a lot more games will be able to be played on it as the grass surface is sadly pretty poor. Livingston reserves used it at the start of last season but the club had to stop their games eventually as the pitch couldn't take it. I doubt the Council can force us to allow another club to play on it. Why don't they get changed at the school and play at Central Park.? How long are they allowed to use the school? What would happen if they got Talbot at home in the Scottish, would the game go ahead at the school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgieman Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Thank you for that Lithgierose but we have attended these workshops before with all the said funders. They are not interested because we are not a charity and the club is not affiliated to the youth teams although amateur teams play at Central Park througout the season and the Gala Five -a-sides are held there every year. We have been knocked back by the Lottery, Sports Council, Coalfields, Awards for All and West Lothian Community Development Fund. It is not for the want of trying. As reported in an earlier post Bathgate, Broxburn, West Calder, Blackburn and Faudhouse have all received grants from West Lothian Council and the Whitburn Councillors have not helped fight for the club. They were all there at the Scottish Cup final but have now gone AWOL. As far as changing at the school is concerned can you see teams changing at the Academy and walking up Shanks Road in their boots approximately four hundred yards and returning after the game with possible injuries, and exhausted. i don't think that many Junior teams would wear that. If we get Talbot we will just have to play the game at Linlithgow??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitburn exile Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Gorgieman the thing is we should be getting officially connected with the youth teams etc to be at the heart of the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 this is in no way a dig at wjfc,but they might want to think about a change of club colours. there was a yes campaign dinner held in whitburn during the week.the people attending were subjected to flag waving and verbal abuse on entering the building along with the singing of rule britannia etc,what colours do you think they eejits were wearing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitburn exile Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I'd be surprised if our club colours of claret and amber were being used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I'd be surprised if our club colours of claret and amber were being used they weren't.thats my point.get the locals on side change strip colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitburn exile Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 No thanks in all honesty the way forward is to be a community club and get engaged with the town again. Offer free entry for kids when with an adult if no adult charge a quid. Etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleboy1969 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 No thanks in all honesty the way forward is to be a community club and get engaged with the town again. Offer free entry for kids when with an adult if no adult charge a quid. Etcunfotunattly like most junior clubs we are overlooked locally in favour off the big corporate entity thats the old firm or edinburghs so called big two .if the comunitty onlt knew the work put into the junior clubs maybee just maybee the support would grow ..community clubs are the way forward and will hopefully give us the junior fans off the future ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracy Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The money got invested in other parts of Whitburn .then u have young idiots who set it on fire and need to build again . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surely not! Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Gorgieman the thing is we should be getting officially connected with the youth teams etc to be at the heart of the community. This is spot on. Funding or no funding this is what should happen anyway, BUT it will open up access to a lot of extra funds. The process however is a complex one and often isn't as simple as it seems- despite the benefits to both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuggie123 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Gorgieman the thing is we should be getting officially connected with the youth teams etc to be at the heart of the community. I thought Whitburn already went down this road but it turned out to be a cul-de-Sac (dead-end for any Fauldhoose punters looking in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmania Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Looking for new manager as welk niw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED UNITED Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I thought Whitburn already went down this road but it turned out to be a cul-de-Sac (dead-end for any Fauldhoose punters looking in). just leave Fauldhouse out of this. ...no issues with the way we are performing on and off the pitch. ..5th in the super league just in case you don't check that league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuggie123 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 just leave Fauldhouse out of this. ...no issues with the way we are performing on and off the pitch. ..5th in the super league just in case you don't check that league! Caught one. That was too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED UNITED Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Caught one. That was too easy. actually quite sad lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man on a bike Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Just 6-7 years. Whitburn started the ball rolling on their redevelopment program in 2001 I think. But I suppose owning their own park has something do to with not being able to raise the funds necessary. Owning the ground is a GREAT starting point. For God's sake do NOT sell it. For many funders grounds being Council owned is what they will avoid. The most common reason for failing to obtain funding is the legal setup of the group applying (and what they will call governance). If you think you can get public money to sustain just a junior club then the answer is no and always will be. Also coming from a junior club sets you at a disadvantage straightaway as funders and many major sporting bodies will treat you with suspicion. They have seen too many examples of the money going to buy the next world class centre forward or fantastic carpark. Funders want to see more than junior football. And also more than football. Anything that gets people active, old fat guys, mums and toddlers can all help with your application. And if there is anti social behaviour in your area this will help your case. It is all about how you tell it!! The opportunities for junior clubs to tap into this support has never been better. Scotland has what is considered to have a world leading strategy for healthy communities. It will take time, but meanwhile Scotland is the unhealthiest nation in Europe. Support is there for those who want to help make that improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Star Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I'm hearing it's even worse in Fife with a C*ntcillor that has it in for a club. Watch this space....... Surely all clubs in Fife are treated the same by the council mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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