mikedafc Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 a choice of who is less worse than the other. Shame Bernie Sanders didn't win Democratic nomination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 FBI bottle charging Clinton. Basically say she did wrong, she's lied about it, there was eight top secret email chains amounting to 110 individual emails... But she won't be charged with anything. Pretty much certain if she were still SoS she'd be booted out at a minimum, probably charged. Bad news for all concerned. It's really only bad news if you're a Trump supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It's really only bad news if you're a Trump supporter. Maybe. Had she been charged maybe Clinton would have been binned for Sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It's really only bad news if you're a Trump supporter. Bernie could've snuck in the back door. It also gives Trump a real chance to go at her, it's been virtually said she lied in her hearings, hid emails and knew full well what she's doing unless she's the world's biggest moron. And still, "the establishment" have chosen to do nothing about it. The FBI director even said people who do the exact same thing could be charged. So all in all, Bernie misses out, Trump's campaign gets a much needed shot in the arm, and Hillary carries on her quest to do... something... as long as she has power and money. So as I said, bad news for all concerned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Said way back that nothing would get in Shillary's way to the nomination. Extremely powerful/connected and seemingly untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Paul Ryan has demanded that Clinton be denied access to classified information for the duration of her presidency. I actually thought Ryan was a decent GOPer but it seems making a fool of yourself is more important than trying to tackle the issues facing America. He's just Trump's bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 State Department reopening enquiries, which is odd given we all know they'll only slap her on the wrists. It's not really unreasonable to suggest under normal circumstances she'd be 'forced' to resign her position. Astonishing that the US have a battle between this and Trump for President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Its not "Vote for the best" its "Vote for the least worse" Both thier opinion poll ratings are awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 That's Fox news found the photos that finally prove Obama is a Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 1 hour ago, mjw said: That's Fox news found the photos that finally prove Obama is a Muslim. Kenyan clothing more than Muslim, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Kenyan clothing more than Muslim, apparently. It just seems to be Fox news Bill O'reilly who is struggling with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Ah Fox news. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Someone should really put a stop to the 'two terms and you're done' thing they've got going in the States. Obama would wipe the floor with Trump and Hillary (Again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream Cheese Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 53 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: Someone should really put a stop to the 'two terms and you're done' thing they've got going in the States. Obama would wipe the floor with Trump and Hillary (Again) Says more about the opposition than Obama tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 59 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: Someone should really put a stop to the 'two terms and you're done' thing they've got going in the States. Obama would wipe the floor with Trump and Hillary (Again) Obama has been an absolute failure as President. I really thought his election to the position would make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Obama has been an absolute failure as President. I really thought his election to the position would make a difference. He's been a failure in terms of the expectations set on him when he took the job. Most thought he was going to be the best President for at least our collective lifetimes. Put that into contrast with the expectations that will be put on Hillary/Trump and he's been absolutely amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: He's been a failure in terms of the expectations set on him when he took the job. Most thought he was going to be the best President for at least our collective lifetimes. Put that into contrast with the expectations that will be put on Hillary/Trump and he's been absolutely amazing. Maybe the expectations were high but I'm not judging him against these rather I'm judging him by his record. What has he done that is noteworthy? Obamacare may survive in a lesser form if Clinton wins; take that out of the equation and he's done nothing. What's particularly sad is that issues facing African Americans have not improved during his tenure. From voter registration through to victimisation by the police it's virtually where it was when he assumed office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream Cheese Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Maybe the expectations were high but I'm not judging him against these rather I'm judging him by his record. What has he done that is noteworthy? Obamacare may survive in a lesser form if Clinton wins; take that out of the equation and he's done nothing. What's particularly sad is that issues facing African Americans have not improved during his tenure. From voter registration through to victimisation by the police it's virtually where it was when he assumed office. Most of the issues in America can't be resolved by the president. He/She needs support of congress. Who are all crazy Texan Conservative assholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 5 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Obama has been an absolute failure as President. I really thought his election to the position would make a difference. You weren't alone in being duped by a blatantly obvious at the time personality cult leaning heavily on the race vote, tbf. Agree with you otherwise - as far as potential for fuckups go, I don't think he's been particularly bad. Just not good. Which I suppose could be framed as failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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