Insaintee Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 You are a bigot. Your hatred and bias against Rangers has blinded you to the point where, you come on to this forum every day spouting negative bile about rangers, completely oblivious to and ignoring the true facts which prove you wrong on most of your claims. My 'new' club is never going to die again, why don't you start to actually support a team .. instead of only trying to slate RFC online every day when you have no proof, only a bunch of insults like 'your clubs dead' every time someone proves your points wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 FC TIMIŞOARA were refused a UEFA club licence, as were the current Rangers. You really do like to revise the facts don't you. "The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) has dismissed an appeal by Romanian club FC Timişoara against a UEFA decision regarding the three-year rule, which is an important feature of the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations." "Pursuant to this rule, clubs are not allowed to change their legal form or structure in order to obtain a licence, simply by 'cleaning up' their balance sheet while offloading debts onto a new entity that might potentially go bankrupt – thus harming creditors (including employees and social/tax authorities) as well as threatening the integrity of sporting competition. "Clubs are not allowed to change their legal form or structure on order to obtain a licence. "Any such alteration of a club's legal form or structure is deemed to be an interruption to its membership of a UEFA member association" Oh dear, Rangers Trawling European football again in a desperate attempt to back up their same club guff!...and failing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyman Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 greyman, RFC are in a good place, are you? Wow. Simply, wow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRF-LCC-RFC Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) JPEG Insaintee your team (St Mire) are in the middle of losing to Falkirk right now. Why are yout trying to noise up RFC fans instead of watching your team lose? Edited October 31, 2015 by MRF-LCC-RFC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Insaintee your team (St Mire) are in the middle of losing to Falkirk right now. Why are yout trying to noise up RFC fans instead of watching your team lose? Boooooooooooooooooooooo! Meltdown imminent. Tis what you do best. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 oh, you poor wee persecuted soul. ...and actual grown up discussion breaks down. Such a pattern these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 ...and actual grown up discussion breaks down. Such a pattern these days. Well if you'd stop talking pish... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Tis what you do best. gauge peoples emotions, on here? Yeah I pride myself on it. Thanks for the compliment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Indeed, as I said and you just demonstrated, the events of the past few years have left you a paranoid, delusional, quivering fool, only a child would suggest these organisations like the ECA, UEFA, SFA and the SPFL are all colluding doing this for some other reason than simply following their own rules, seems your bitterness knows no bounds.Rangers were a founding member of ECA. I don't believe their verdict amounts to anything surprising, although even they see a blip in membership.The Scottish governing bodies can hardly be taken seriously as impartial voices on this, given their conduct throughout the saga. They're not colluding. The lead of the national body is being followed by UEFA. There's no paranoia or quivering evident at all, in recognising what's happened here. Edited October 31, 2015 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Rangers were a founding member of ECA. I don't believe their verdict amounts to anything of significance.The Scottish governing bodies can hardly be taken seriously as impartial voices on this, given their conduct throughout the saga.They're not colluding. The lead of the national body is being followed by UEFA.There's no paranoia evident at all in recognising what's happened here.Seldom, do I quiver. According to UEFA articles the CAS has final say in any disputes. "Pursuant to this rule, clubs are not allowed to change their legal form or structure in order to obtain a licence, simply by 'cleaning up' their balance sheet while offloading debts onto a new entity that might potentially go bankrupt – thus harming creditors (including employees and social/tax authorities) as well as threatening the integrity of sporting competition. Any such alteration of a club's legal form or structure is deemed to be an interruption to its membership of a UEFA member association and consequently three years must pass before a club can apply again for a UEFA licence. In other words, the three-year rule is designed basically to avoid circumvention of the club licensing system." That is pretty clear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) According to UEFA articles the CAS has final say in any disputes. "Pursuant to this rule, clubs are not allowed to change their legal form or structure in order to obtain a licence, simply by 'cleaning up' their balance sheet while offloading debts onto a new entity that might potentially go bankrupt thus harming creditors (including employees and social/tax authorities) as well as threatening the integrity of sporting competition. Any such alteration of a club's legal form or structure is deemed to be an interruption to its membership of a UEFA member association and consequently three years must pass before a club can apply again for a UEFA licence. In other words, the three-year rule is designed basically to avoid circumvention of the club licensing system." That is pretty clear. The ECA themselves made the newco just an associate member. Continuation has happened, but not seamlessly. Edited October 31, 2015 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) The ECA themselves made the newcomers just an associate member.Continuation has happened, but not seamlessly.True. A broken historical timeline with a new membership. And, if the fraud case finds that the transfer was a criminal act then the zombie will finally be put to rest. Edited October 31, 2015 by stonedsailor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 How did Rangers claim for transfer fees go again? RANGERS suffered a £6million hammer blow yesterday when their compensation claim against six former players was thrown out at Hampden. But the club have vowed to fight on in a bid to reclaim the cash chief executive Charles Green believes he is due from the transfers of Allan McGregor, Steven Whittaker, Steven Naismith, Kyle Lafferty, Sone Aluko and Jamie Ness. The Gang of Six jumped ship as free agents rather than sign for the newco last summer prompting Green to ask the SFA to convene an independent arbitration panel to rule on the dispute. He insists the players broke employment rules by refusing to stay under TUPE regulations. But Record Sport can reveal Green’s cash claim has now been dismissed by that expert panel who believe the players had every right to turn his offer down and accept lucrative deals elsewhere. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) How did Rangers claim for transfer fees go again? RANGERS suffered a £6million hammer blow yesterday when their compensation claim against six former players was thrown out at Hampden.But the club have vowed to fight on in a bid to reclaim the cash chief executive Charles Green believes he is due from the transfers of Allan McGregor, Steven Whittaker, Steven Naismith, Kyle Lafferty, Sone Aluko and Jamie Ness.The Gang of Six jumped ship as free agents rather than sign for the newco last summer prompting Green to ask the SFA to convene an independent arbitration panel to rule on the dispute. He insists the players broke employment rules by refusing to stay under TUPE regulations.But Record Sport can reveal Green’s cash claim has now been dismissed by that expert panel who believe the players had every right to turn his offer down and accept lucrative deals elsewhere.I believe that "Rangers" took the case to FIFA and in their only official declaration on the continuation subject FIFA declared that no fee was due for the transfer of registrations.It is also noteworthy that this is one of the only times that the SFA articles were tested on the subject of continuation. An INDEPENDENT panel, put in place to rule on the SFA rulebook, decided that the players were not registered to "Rangers". This would indicate that "Rangers" were a new club seeing as how the players are registered to the club through the association. So much conflicting information. Edited October 31, 2015 by stonedsailor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRF-LCC-RFC Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 haha, Yous seem to spend a lot of time obsessing over 'facts' from years ago which are really irrelevant now.. when in fact half of these 'facts' have been fabricated by obsessed timbloggers online who don't have real sources for their info, they just post a lot of basic facts we already knew and ideas they have thought of which could potentially be the scenario which they have guessed when they have read between the lines and hope it is correct lol. like phil kagoul saying we were going into admin 2 a month ago and murray park was going to be shut then it didn't happen lol. to put it simple, Rangers and our fans have moved on from admin and we all couldn't be more happy now. Other fans saying we're dead or citing posts to say that will never stop Rangers fan from being proud of our team that is great now. I'm a gers fan and even I don't are about how admin anymore or Greens failed attempt to clain transfer fees for Naismith etc went about, because that was 2-4 years ago and we have moved on. We are in a great place now and always will be thanks to King, the board, Warburton & Weir, and our team on the park ripping it up every week too. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I believe that "Rangers" took the case to FIFA and in their only official declaration on the continuation subject FIFA declared that no fee was due for the transfer of registrations. It is also noteworthy that this is one of the only times that the SFA articles were tested on the subject of continuation. An INDEPENDENT panel, put in place to rule on the SFA rulebook, decided that the players were not registered to "Rangers". This would indicate that "Rangers" were a new club seeing as how the players are registered to the club through the association. So much conflicting information. Indeed. It's this conflict of information that means Rangers are kinda new; kinda the same. It's messy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Indeed. It's this conflict of information that means Rangers are kinda new; kinda the same. It's messy. True the ECA, ASA,FIFA etc all take stance given to them by the governing body , the SFA. But people who dont have to follow the SFA lead like the BDO , TUPE panel , Setanta have all told them to shove their same club shite up their arse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 haha, Yous seem to spend a lot of time obsessing over 'facts' from years ago which are really irrelevant now.. when in fact half of these 'facts' have been fabricated by obsessed timbloggers online who don't have real sources for their info, they just post a lot of basic facts we already knew and ideas they have thought of which could potentially be the scenario which they have guessed when they have read between the lines and hope it is correct lol. like phil kagoul saying we were going into admin 2 a month ago and murray park was going to be shut then it didn't happen lol. to put it simple, Rangers and our fans have moved on from admin and we all couldn't be more happy now. Other fans saying we're dead or citing posts to say that will never stop Rangers fan from being proud of our team that is great now. I'm a gers fan and even I don't are about how admin anymore or Greens failed attempt to clain transfer fees for Naismith etc went about, because that was 2-4 years ago and we have moved on. We are in a great place now and always will be thanks to King, the board, Warburton & Weir, and our team on the park ripping it up every week too. Why haven't you used the multi-coloured fonts this time round? Anyway, it is terrific stuff. Keep it up. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Why haven't you used the multi-coloured fonts this time round? Anyway, it is terrific stuff. Keep it up. I think it's the banned, racist, drunk taxi driver. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Rangers were a founding member of ECA. I don't believe their verdict amounts to anything surprising, although even they see a blip in membership. The Scottish governing bodies can hardly be taken seriously as impartial voices on this, given their conduct throughout the saga. They're not colluding. The lead of the national body is being followed by UEFA. There's no paranoia or quivering evident at all, in recognising what's happened here. On one hand you the eca, on the other hand you have a blogger. Who knows best? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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