Detournement Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: Simple fact champ, if we weren't occupying part of their country and treating the natives like shit none of it happens. Sometimes the facts are very unpalatable for the perpetrators. Imperialism should always be opposed but the protestant population in the north were long established so had/have to be part of any solution. If the UK state had simply pulled out in 1919 there would have bloodshed on the level of the partition of India. And probably an ethno protestant state in the north. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Detournement said: Imperialism should always be opposed but the protestant population in the north were long established so had/have to be part of any solution. If the UK state had simply pulled out in 1919 there would have bloodshed on the level of the partition of India. And probably an ethno protestant state in the north. Aye cause we'd colonised it in order to try to steal it. You need to go further back champ, our colonialism started long before that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 The Norman conquest of Ireland goes back to the middle ages. Caused a lot of trouble those Normans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Going to be utter #scenes.Lovely.Cant wait popcorn time.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 The Norman conquest of Ireland goes back to the middle ages. Caused a lot of trouble those Normans.Don’t forget the Vikings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Worth pointing out as most British people aren't aware that during the troubles over there the republicans were the good guys and the loyalists/security services were the bad guys. Good job you explained that. Who knew it was so straight forward as a simple "goodies" v "baddies" Astonishing insight champ. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, Loondave1 said: 1 hour ago, Peppino Impastato said: Worth pointing out as most British people aren't aware that during the troubles over there the republicans were the good guys and the loyalists/security services were the bad guys. Good job you explained that. Who knew it was so straight forward as a simple "goodies" v "baddies" Astonishing insight champ. No bother man. Baddies are also bigots in this case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, Detournement said: The Norman conquest of Ireland goes back to the middle ages. Caused a lot of trouble those Normans. Typical British person's reaction when their colonialism is pointed out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 No bother man. Baddies are also bigots in this case.Were there any republican "baddies" or was being republican a sort of "free pass" for any behaviour whatsoever ? Just wondering.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, Loondave1 said: 3 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: No bother man. Baddies are also bigots in this case. Were there any republican "baddies" or was being republican a sort of "free pass" for any behaviour whatsoever ? Just wondering.. Their cause was just, ours wasn't. Surprised to see you're a raging britnat btw.... not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Another binary perpesctive from a poster with two braincells.Not really. Catholics in the north were subject to interment and a shoot to kill policy was adopted by the bigoted security forces. The Good Friday Agreement gave NI citizens Irish and British citizenship.Proper order..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Their cause was just, ours wasn't. Surprised to see you're a raging britnat btw.... not."Ours" Pep ? Your slipping...I'm hardly "raging" so will pick you up on that but you scored highly for omitting "champ" for once. Not sure a "just cause" is carte blanche for any behaviour though seems a bit simplistic to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 'Goodies' and 'baddies'is a perspective worthy of a 10 year old. The men that carried out the Kingmill massacre or who murdered Jean McConville were not 'goodies'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 'Goodies' and 'baddies'is a perspective worthy of a 10 year old. The men that carried out the Kingmill massacre or who murdered Jean McConville were not 'goodies'.Who said that, faults on both sides but Irish people living in the north of IRELAND took a hell of shite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: "Ours" Pep ? Your slipping... I'm hardly "raging" so will pick you up on that but you scored highly for omitting "champ" for once. Not sure a "just cause" is carte blanche for any behaviour though seems a bit simplistic to me. The UK champ. And in international law freedom fighters are 100% okay. Only the colonists view them as terrorists. Their behaviour was much better than the UK's and loyalists btw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 'Goodies' and 'baddies'is a perspective worthy of a 10 year old. The men that carried out the Kingmill massacre or who murdered Jean McConville were not 'goodies'.Make it 8 year old and i will concur. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: 'Goodies' and 'baddies'is a perspective worthy of a 10 year old. The men that carried out the Kingmill massacre or who murdered Jean McConville were not 'goodies'. Individual acts are irrelevant. Bone side was right one side was wrong. One had justice and morality on its side, the other was us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, John Lambies Doos said: 5 minutes ago, Detournement said: 'Goodies' and 'baddies'is a perspective worthy of a 10 year old. The men that carried out the Kingmill massacre or who murdered Jean McConville were not 'goodies'. Who said that, faults on both sides but Irish people living in the north of IRELAND took a hell of shite Treated like shit in their own country by colonial oppressors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Treated like shit in their own country by colonial oppressors.Cant really argue with that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 The UK champ. And in international law freedom fighters are 100% okay. Only the colonists view them as terrorists. Their behaviour was much better than the UK's and loyalists btw.Is that some sort of "Pep's Law"...or official and I'm really disappointed with the "champ" reference I thought we had turned a corner there. "100% okay" is that an actual quote from said "international law" ? I smell shi.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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