Glenconner Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Easy for Ruth when it stays on one trick pony ground. Indy, yes or no will come to an end shortly. Then what has Ruth got, other than stealing OAPs free bus passes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Glenconner said: Easy for Ruth when it stays on one trick pony ground. Indy, yes or no will come to an end shortly. Then what has Ruth got, other than stealing OAPs free bus passes. She's already shown that she'll do a bolter when asked uncomfortable questions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Some might say SLAB and the SNP might have been/were completely shafted. The Tories must be laughing their tits off regarding Scotland. Outside of Indy we're effed regatding getting any social justice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, Glenconner said: Easy for Ruth when it stays on one trick pony ground. Indy, yes or no will come to an end shortly. Then what has Ruth got, other than stealing OAPs free bus passes. 1 We already know what Ruth has. She's been asking Questions from the left and now right side of FMQT, and like Dugdale hasn't laid a glove on Sturgeon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Pearbuyerbell said: We already know what Ruth has. She's been asking Questions from the left and now right side of FMQT, and like Dugdale hasn't laid a glove on Sturgeon. Eff all. Like the previous Tory leaders in the parliament 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Just now, Glenconner said: Eff all. Like the previous Tory leaders in the parliament I liked Annabel Goldie and the late David Mcletchie. Ruth is a huge step down in class and ability. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, Pearbuyerbell said: I liked Annabel Goldie and the late David Mcletchie. Ruth is a huge step down in class and ability. Ability as in taking the Tory carrots from 1 MP for 20 years to 13 in a day. It's not my politics but credit where credits due. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 If she wants to, she will be PM one day 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, Donathan said: If she wants to, she will be PM one day If true that shows the incredible lack of talent available to the UK unionist parties. I suspect however its not true. She will be found out, long before she gets anywhere near a position to do real damage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Some might say SLAB and the SNP might have been/were completely shafted. The Tories must be laughing their tits off regarding Scotland. Outside of Indy we're effed regatding getting any social justice. That's because of the selfish auld c***s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 In relation to Ruth for PM, You can see why it's been suggested by some down South, on the face of it you'd have to assume that she's a competent politician, the reality of course is that she found a very niche 'policy' and used it in an arena where people (mostly mono-brows ) were willing to vote for it, add to that Labour actively encouraging folk to vote Tory and you've got a situation that was able to mask her actual attributes and her attributes are painfully poor - last weeks FMQs should vave been an absolute breeze for her as she could attack the FM for declaring the contents of a private call, and yet Sturgeon just handed her a great big f'ck off telt - it's the same every week - the opposition should be able to put the FM under pressure every single week and yet the FM always comes out looking the winner, We've also seen that she can't handle a grilling, her Woman's Hour interview was absolute car crash stuff ... and then there's the Channel 4 thing from the other day where she get's increasingly agitated at the line of questioning before just fucking off without answering. Did she not also give an interview where she said imigration to Scotland was to much, not enough and just right all at the same time ? She'd need to prove herself elsewhere before she'd seriously be considered for the role but oh the joy if they did just hand her the keys to No10. Glorious 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Honestly want to see the SNP shelve indyref2 for a while just to see how much Ruth panics when she has to start attacking the SNP on policy and offering policy on her own. Every Scottish Conservative policy that's ever been posed under her leadership or suggested has been slaughtered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Honestly want to see the SNP shelve indyref2 for a while just to see how much Ruth panics when she has to start attacking the SNP on policy and offering policy on her own. Every Scottish Conservative policy that's ever been posed under her leadership or suggested has been slaughtered. As was shown in her "interview" with Channel 4 over the weekend, under the slightest bit of interrogation, RapeClauseRuth's atom thin veneer of bonhomie disappears into the ether. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crossbill Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 There is no chance of either the Conservatives or Labour dropping the 'No to Indy' line, no matter what the SNP position on it is. If this election has shown one thing conclusively , it's that there is a huge part of the population of Scotland for which the union is the be all and end all. Actual policies simply do not matter. As an opposition politician, this must be mana from heaven. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Crossbill said: There is no chance of either the Conservatives or Labour dropping the 'No to Indy' line, no matter what the SNP position on it is. If this election has shown one thing conclusively , it's that there is a huge part of the population of Scotland for which the union is the be all and end all. Actual policies simply do not matter. As an opposition politician, this must be mana from heaven. Its ok Most of them are wrinkly. Once they have went, its only the tiny minority orange mahogany napper types left. Just a waiting game. Edited June 12, 2017 by git-intae-thum 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 In relation to Ruth for PM, You can see why it's been suggested by some down South, on the face of it you'd have to assume that she's a competent politician, the reality of course is that she found a very niche 'policy' and used it in an arena where people (mostly mono-brows [emoji14]) were willing to vote for it, add to that Labour actively encouraging folk to vote Tory and you've got a situation that was able to mask her actual attributes and her attributes are painfully poor - last weeks FMQs should vave been an absolute breeze for her as she could attack the FM for declaring the contents of a private call, and yet Sturgeon just handed her a great big f'ck off telt - it's the same every week - the opposition should be able to put the FM under pressure every single week and yet the FM always comes out looking the winner, We've also seen that she can't handle a grilling, her Woman's Hour interview was absolute car crash stuff ... and then there's the Channel 4 thing from the other day where she get's increasingly agitated at the line of questioning before just fucking off without answering. Did she not also give an interview where she said imigration to Scotland was to much, not enough and just right all at the same time ? She'd need to prove herself elsewhere before she'd seriously be considered for the role but oh the joy if they did just hand her the keys to No10. Glorious When and where have Scottish Labour actively encouraged people to vote Tory? I've heard that repeated numerous times on this site yet have not seen anything where anyone in the party leadership has encouraged voting Conservative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, jmothecat said: When and where have Scottish Labour actively encouraged people to vote Tory? I've heard that repeated numerous times on this site yet have not seen anything where anyone in the party leadership has encouraged voting Conservative. Unless she is not the brightest , then surely this was a very strong message of unionist solidarity and hint to vote tory in the borders and North. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/807559/Kezia-Dugdale-Nicola-Sturgeon-SNP-Scottish-independence-poll-Ruth-Davidson/amp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Unless she is not the brightest [emoji5], then surely this was a very strong message of unionist solidarity and hint to vote tory in the borders and North.https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/807559/Kezia-Dugdale-Nicola-Sturgeon-SNP-Scottish-independence-poll-Ruth-Davidson/amp So full quote:“The reality is the vast majority of seats across Scotland, it’s only the Labour party that can beat the SNP.“There are a few differences in the Borders and the Highlands where the Tories might be better placed but right across Scotland’s centre belt, where the vast majority of Scotland’s population lives, the only party that can beat the SNP is the Labour party.”That's not advocating voting Tory at all. It's actually a completely accurate summation of Scottish politics and sounds to me like a pitch to try to convince Tory unionists in the central belt to back Labour over the SNP, not sure why they would but a completely sensible pitch for the Scottish Labour leader to make. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, jmothecat said: So full quote: “The reality is the vast majority of seats across Scotland, it’s only the Labour party that can beat the SNP. “There are a few differences in the Borders and the Highlands where the Tories might be better placed but right across Scotland’s centre belt, where the vast majority of Scotland’s population lives, the only party that can beat the SNP is the Labour party.” That's not advocating voting Tory at all. It's actually a completely accurate summation of Scottish politics and sounds to me like a pitch to try to convince Tory unionists in the central belt to back Labour over the SNP, not sure why they would but a completely sensible pitch for the Scottish Labour leader to make. But why is a Scottish labour leader briefing against the snp to the obvious benefit of the tories? #Snp...baaaaaaa.......d Once again she positioned scottish labour as the tory yoon pazzi. Corbyn must be raging. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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