Dons_1988 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, Tibbermoresaint said: Would you bill them for the cost of the ambulance? Probably bill the do gooder who phoned up. Can't you see it's a worthless junkie, £100 please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, The Moonster said: Thanks for the politicians masterclass in how to avoid answering a straight question with a straight answer. It would be pretty hypocritical of me to demand one policy for the commonality and one for my family. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I think if tibbermoresaint made any sort of effort to actually understand the things he they talk about, they wouldn't post so much. I'd love to live in a world where you could simply stop people being addicts. Then again... I'd also love to f**k Beyonce. I'm a realist though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Tibbermoresaint said: It would be pretty hypocritical of me to demand one policy for the commonality and one for my family. It's pretty heartless of you to leave people dying on the streets, whether it's the general public or your relative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, The Moonster said: It's pretty heartless of you to leave people dying on the streets, whether it's the general public or your relative. Junkies aren't the general public. They're junkies. -8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 This is absolutely wild. You forget sometimes there’s real people in the world with views like this. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 No, it's absolutely fucking relevant when we're talking about dealing with future potential junkies.Right.So your solution is to let all current drug addicts die/lock them up forever, and then magically find a way to stop there being any new ones? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, oneteaminglasgow said: Right. So your solution is to let all current drug addicts die/lock them up forever, and then magically find a way to stop there being any new ones? Do you think we shouldn't try to stop there being new ones? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Do you think we shouldn't try to stop there being new ones?I think we should try to tackle the factors which lead to people being drug addicts, but also acknowledge that it would be extremely difficult (if not impossible), and that bringing the number of drug addicts down to zero is an unachievable goal.Therefore, we, as a society, need some way to try to deal with the inevitability that some people will be drug addicts in a way that is most beneficial to society. That, to me, is trying to help that person away from drug addiction towards a mire productive future, as far as is possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: I hate to break a brutal truth to you. These support role are amongst the lowest paid and least desirable jobs in the country. Whilst some people are happy to dedicate their lives to helping others, for a lot of people this will be about the only job they can get. People need to eat. There isn't exactly an army of people wanting to struggle on minimum wage and then go to work and spend time with people who want to through their lives away. I am always surprised when I discover someone for whom this type of work is a genuine vocation II certainly couldn't do it and I don't know many who could tolerate it. I have to break a brutal truth to you. The person I posted about is nowhere near the lowest paid in the country, wage or lack of it doesn't always equate to who gives a shit, if it did then all rather than most nurses would give a shit. Edited July 18, 2019 by ayrmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: I think we should try to tackle the factors which lead to people being drug addicts, but also acknowledge that it would be extremely difficult (if not impossible), and that bringing the number of drug addicts down to zero is an unachievable goal. Therefore, we, as a society, need some way to try to deal with the inevitability that some people will be drug addicts in a way that is most beneficial to society. That, to me, is trying to help that person away from drug addiction towards a mire productive future, as far as is possible. You seem to think we need to tolerate junkies in society. That's negative and defeatist because we don't. And we shouldn't. Being a junkie is a choice. We need to ensure people don't make that choice. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Do you think we shouldn't try to stop there being new ones?Go have a look at projects like street and arrow and tell me people who are drug users are beyond help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Go have a look at projects like street and arrow and tell me people who are drug users are beyond help. Would you agree that some junkies are beyond help? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Tibbermoresaint said: You seem to think we need to tolerate junkies in society. That's negative and defeatist because we don't. And we shouldn't. Being a junkie is a choice. We need to ensure people don't make that choice. We don't need to tolerate junkies in society, we need to find ways to lessen the numbers of both existing and future ones, it ain't going to happen with your approach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, ayrmad said: We don't need to tolerate junkies in society, we need to find ways to lessen the numbers of both existing and future ones, it ain't going to happen with your approach. It isn't happening with the current approach. We haven't tried my approach. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Tibbermoresaint said: It isn't happening with the current approach. We haven't tried my approach. Thank f**k for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Live footage of Tibbermoresaint's Personal Responsibility Programme in full flow: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, ayrmad said: Thank f**k for that. Would you say that if you'd been the victim of a crime committed by a junkie? I doubt it. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 This guy is fucking putrid btw. I know I have used the Heads Gone thread to effectively point and laugh at him, but seriously, what a fucking wretch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Would you agree that some junkies are beyond help?Have a look at street and arrow, some of their testimonials, no one is beyond saving. Some just take more time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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