Detournement Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: We just don't know if it will work, though. Everyone in that test was 31 years old with no co morbidities. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-tourists-idUKKBN2A80UG?taid=602142b7d3964a00010819c7&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I’m going to guess you missed the reasoning above, but to paraphrase and summarise:1. GP practices need to operate as normal through the week 2. They set up weekend clinics (overtime). 3. Most of these are a Saturday4. Are you expecting them all just to work 7 days a week, without break?5. What’s your plan to deal with the staff burnout and sick days such a plan would result in? Can't the selfish buggers be thankful for all that "clapping" energy? Captain Tom didn't take Sunday off when he went to the Caribbean, you know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Yeah, we're in a pandemic. We need to adapt to that and get people vaccinated. Then again, perhaps we shouldn't question and just accept it.Wee question - are you doing a load of extra hours? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Wee question - are you doing a load of extra hours?Yip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 40 minutes ago, Elixir said: Humanity is losing its mind. Doesn't sound like a sensible approach to me. Did this whole thing not start because someone ate an infected animal? the Koreans eat dogs. Get them tested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: It's all relative down there tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, Burnieman said: I'm not implying that either, what I am saying is that opening a GP's on a Sunday isn't an unattainable goal and we should be working towards a 7 day operation to help vaccinations. I'm not sure why that is seen as something "ridiculous". Largely because GPs surgeries are probably working at or very close to their capacity as things are. You simply can't say to everyone who works in a GPs surgery there'll be no days off for anyone until September. The dedicated vaccination centres are where there's much more scope to increase capacity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Yip.7 days a week, every week? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Worth saying yesterday’s tally from Scotland was proportionately the highest of any UK nation on a Sunday so far. Treble last week’s figure which blew my expectations out of the water.There’s an argument for more to be done of course but quite simply it requires more vaccinators. Without that you’re just squeezing even more out of the same people and sooner or later that bubble bursts. The size/scale of vaccination is unprecedented and frankly unsustainable. We can’t do it like this every year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Largely because GPs surgeries are probably working at or very close to their capacity as things are. You simply can't say to everyone who works in a GPs surgery there'll be no days off for anyone until September. The dedicated vaccination centres are where there's much more scope to increase capacity.Again, I'm not suggesting everyone works 7 days a week, but neither am I accepting that opening on a Sunday can't be done under any circumstances.We have a distinct lag on a Sunday. We don't really know why - NS said last week she needed to look into it - it could be GP's or a mixture of that and other circumstances.It's the weekend, a lot of people aren't working, so the opportunity is there to get people jagged that perhaps have to cancel or find difficulty with weekday appointments.I see it as an opportunity being missed, but if next Sundays figures rise again then all good, it's being looked at. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Burnieman said: Again, I'm not suggesting everyone works 7 days a week, but neither am I accepting that opening on a Sunday can't be done under any circumstances. We have a distinct lag on a Sunday. We don't really know why - NS said last week she needed to look into it - it could be GP's or a mixture of that and other circumstances. It's the weekend, a lot of people aren't working, so the opportunity is there to get people jagged that perhaps have to cancel or find difficulty with weekday appointments. I see it as an opportunity being missed, but if next Sundays figures rise again then all good, it's being looked at. No reasonable employer will refuse you time off to get vaccinated. You have to be allowed time off for medical issues. If you can't make the effort because you have something more important to do then hell mend you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 No reasonable employer will refuse you time off to get vaccinated. You have to be allowed time off for medical issues. If you can't make the effort because you have something more important to do then hell mend you.There could be a whole number of reasons why you have difficulty making an appointment which you had no input into. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, Burnieman said: Again, I'm not suggesting everyone works 7 days a week, but neither am I accepting that opening on a Sunday can't be done under any circumstances. How do you get them to open on a Sunday without either making people work 7 days a week or just shifting the days people work (which, again, will put precisely zero more vaccines into zero more arms over the week)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, Burnieman said: Again, I'm not suggesting everyone works 7 days a week, but neither am I accepting that opening on a Sunday can't be done under any circumstances. I mean you've got a guy literally working a GP practice on the previous page saying they can't do much more without killing themselves, but aye, keep saying it's possible and someone might believe you. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Gordon EF said: How do you get them to open on a Sunday without either making people work 7 days a week or just shifting the days people work (which, again, will put precisely zero more vaccines into zero more arms over the week)? Recruit people, train volunteers, ask retired staff to return, a combination of any or all of that. Do what they're doing to staff the new mass vaccination centres. Have GP's attempted that? is any of that impossible? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Moonster said: I mean you've got a guy literally working a GP practice on the previous page saying they can't do much more without killing themselves, but aye, keep saying it's possible and someone might believe you. I seriously couldn't care whether you believe me or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Burnieman said: I seriously couldn't care whether you believe me or not. Do you care what actual, working people in GP practices are saying? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Burnieman said: Recruit people, train volunteers, ask retired staff to return, a combination of any or all of that. Do what they're doing to staff the new mass vaccination centres. Have GP's attempted that? is any of that impossible? Have you volunteered your services? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Burnieman said: Recruit people, train volunteers, ask retired staff to return, a combination of any or all of that. Do what they're doing to staff the new mass vaccination centres. Have GP's attempted that? is any of that impossible? And why would you focus any of that on GP surgeries, rather than on to the mass vaccination centres? Pushing all new capacity into the mass vaccination centres is a better idea than putting some of it into GP surgeries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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