Diamonds are Forever Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: McCoist actually researches the teams he commentates on, unlike the Sportsound analysts who openly admit they don’t do any. If we’re going down the routes of other sports, Michael Atherton and Jonathan Agnew are the best commentators going. Don't watch much Cricket but I did listen to Agnew in the World Cup on 5 Live last year and he was excellent. A sport like Cricket lends itself to much greater analysis during the match because of the amount of time between the action, so I'd guess there is a greater expectation to provide quality analysis rather than talking in cliches and describing replays that everyone can see anyway - although I presume that still goes on. I've always found it weird that commentators need to work their way up to the top level, as if it's a proper trade and skill (which it is), but co-commentators just seem to be randomly picked ex-players who get chucked in at the top level. I remember the Euros a few years ago where Phil Neville did his first ever co-commentary and they then realised he was hopeless. Michael Owen was the same at the start of his co-commentary career and there are many more. It's like even the TV companies don't value or think there is any skill in being a co-commentator and just go for the 'big name' rather than someone who has shown over many years they are good at that particular role. I can't really think of any co-commentators who have 'worked their way up' to the top games. It's rare in any walk of life for people to be instantly good at something, I think that partly explains why the standard of co-commentary is so poor. Edited July 15, 2020 by Diamonds are Forever 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Wilkos Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (For me) Clive's highlight was 'England have LIFTOFF' after they took an early lead against Iceland. That soundbite didn't make it into ITV's highlights for some reason. He was, and is, a patronising arsehole. But I don't mind Townsend as a co-commentator, probably because I used to hear him a lot on ITV growing up. "Not for me, Clive. In and around the penalty box etc". As mentioned earlier, Jonathan Pearce is insufferable. The goal line technology fiasco at the World Cup highlighted what a fat moron he truly is. "OH MY GOD IT'S CHANGED ITS MIND!. This is not the system we use in the PREMIER LEAGUE." Just a have your heart attack now and get it over with chubby. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 Jonathan Pearce was absolutely top notch at Robot Wars to give him his due. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluearmyfaction Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Pearce has never learnt the difference between radio and television commentary. I confess I like Martin Tyler, but most of the pundits alongside do my filbert in. None of them calls out obvious cheating even when there is video evidence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Derek Rae + A N Other./thread 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Jacqui Oatley was outstanding. ZÁRATE! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 Not impressed with this Guy Mowbray & Dion Dublin pairing on BBC. That might be unfair on Mowbray as Dublin is horrendous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Wilkos Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ludo*1 said: That might be unfair on Mowbray as Dublin is horrendous. He is missing a trick if he didn't say "stairs leading up to the bedrooms." Edited July 15, 2020 by Steve_Wilkos 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Bobby Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon are the GOAT commentary pairing. Closely followed by Attitude era Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Bobby Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon are the GOAT commentary pairing. Closely followed by Attitude era Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler. Jim Ross would have a field day with the likes of Peter Pawlett. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Ludo*1 said: Jonathan Pearce was absolutely top notch at Robot Wars to give him his due. That's his true level. As footballer commentator, Pearce is an annoying tosser. He thinks he knows a lot about tactics but it's all shite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Listening to Vicki Sparks is utter torture. I turn the sound down and switch on sub-titles. She has little insight on tactics and just describes the match as if she's on the radio. Totally out of her depth! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 Clive Tyldesley joining Ally McCoist for Amazon's coverage of the Sheffield United vs Everton game. Interesting combo. Gutted that Champion has been replaced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Some more points: I had tears of joy seeing that Clive Tyldesley has been given the boot. Gary Neville, Jamie Carragher and Alex Scott might be the only good pundits in English football right now, and Neil McCann ( Mourinho, Liam Rosenior, Craig Bellamy and Frank Lampard were all good pundits before they got jobs elsewhere, or sacked in Bellamy's case. Most presenters are fine but I like Darrell Currie a lot. I've been waiting for a thread like for in a while. Careful what you wish for if he is being replaced by Sam Matterface who is an absolute cock. The way he says De Bruyne really gets on my tits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Careful what you wish for if he is being replaced by Sam Matterface who is an absolute cock. The way he says De Bruyne really gets on my tits. I'm sure I'll grow to loathe him too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DAVIDB69 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Clive sounds rather downbeat despite getting some work, McCoist banter with Jon champion works much better 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raith_94 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Really enjoy McCoist as a co-comm. Agree him and Champion are a great pair.Every former player on BT Sport is dreadful, as is Jake Humphrey. Much rather just have James Richardson and his podcast pals (except Julien Laurens) do the lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DAVIDB69 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I do think humphreys is decent at the after game show they do after night games like tonight 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Jake Humphrey is a million times better than David Jones. Jones just turns into Ron Burgundy/David Tanner whenever he has to say something that isn't on his autocue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Keane is at it at Sky, but it's fantastic.He was brilliant at shutting down the English fanboys after their defeat to Croatia in WC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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