bigwullieac Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Taking the absolute piss with this. When will this farce end? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Wafer Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, Cowdenleith said: I’ve been less negative than some about the b teams, not in the sense that I want them there, but more ‘well they are here so might as well make the best of it’. However, signing a 38 year old goalie is not a good look to me, with their vast resources, they should be able to bring in a talented youngish keeper to develop. Not against any rules, appreciate that, but not a fan of this move at all. Any ambitious and capable 19-23 yo goalie has got to be looking at a level higher than T5 so I can see it being difficult to get someone in. That being said I suspect McDonald must be getting a reasonable wedge so there would have had/could have to have been a reasonable amount of Money available to the right person. There are loads of keepers on loan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B or not B Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 48 minutes ago, bigwullieac said: Taking the absolute piss with this. When will this farce end? They are openly trolling us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparticus Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Wrecking the lowland league 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 4 hours ago, Cowdenleith said: I’ve been less negative than some about the b teams, not in the sense that I want them there, but more ‘well they are here so might as well make the best of it’. However, signing a 38 year old goalie is not a good look to me, with their vast resources, they should be able to bring in a talented youngish keeper to develop. Not against any rules, appreciate that, but not a fan of this move at all. The point is Hearts have two keepers at 16, I think one just turned 16. Reading the reports, MacDonald will be doing some coaching as well as playing. It's a one season arrangement and presumably one of these keepers will take the gloves next season. It's a specialist position and I can see why you wouldn't just drop them in the deep end. One of the problems with B teams is, unlike the old reserve league, you rarely play alongside experienced players. This might help the defenders in their development as well I guess. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, Sparticus said: Wrecking the lowland league 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 3 hours ago, Carmel Wafer said: Any ambitious and capable 19-23 yo goalie has got to be looking at a level higher than T5 so I can see it being difficult to get someone in. Hearts have two in that age range, one is on loan at Ayr United, the other on loan at East Fife. Edited July 24 by Burnieman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 10 minutes ago, Burnieman said: It's a one season arrangement and presumably one of these keepers will take the gloves next season. B teams in the LL was a one season arrangement. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, newcastle broon said: B teams in the LL was a one season arrangement. It was, that went well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko23 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Had a think about it and it still sits a bit uneasy with me signing a 38 year old for this but when the alternative is playing a child in goals and potentially sniffling thier development long term its a better solution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko23 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 12 hours ago, To B or not B said: They are openly trolling us. Wouldn't openly trolling be if we used Ryan Fulton who is just plodding about Tynecastle or giving Halkett or Tagawa minutes instead till they are fit. Instead it's a veteran keeper who nobody would Bat an eyelid it had he signed for EK or Tranent. Who will play 1 season max as the other keepers get older. I've thought about this and it's better of 2 options than hoarding a goalie who had no chance to develop into the team just for the LL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dicko23 said: Had a think about it and it still sits a bit uneasy with me signing a 38 year old for this but when the alternative is playing a child in goals and potentially sniffling thier development long term its a better solution. That's literally it. We've already got two goalkeepers developing on loan. Our options are bring one of those keepers back and they regress, or throw a 16 year old that isn't ready and ruin his and the rest of young defence while we're at it, because I'll bet conceding lots of goals doesn't help ones confidence. An old head in the team can actually help develop footballers also, a shocking concept I know. If you're a young CB would you prefer someone who knows what they're talking about behind you in goals or a kid who's a little bit premature to be out of their comfort zone? No brainer for me. A few people on here clearly looking for a pound of flesh. I don't blame people for being against B teams (not keen on them myself), as there are plenty of good reasons to be against them, but this isn't one of those reasons. Edited July 25 by the jambo-rocker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Wafer Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 19 hours ago, Burnieman said: Hearts have two in that age range, one is on loan at Ayr United, the other on loan at East Fife. Yea, I was talking about getting someone in to fill the gap 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Wafer Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 6 hours ago, the jambo-rocker said: That's literally it. We've already got two goalkeepers developing on loan. Our options are bring one of those keepers back and they regress, or throw a 16 year old that isn't ready and ruin his and the rest of young defence while we're at it, because I'll bet conceding lots of goals doesn't help ones confidence Or get another 20ish keeper in. Does the B team train in isolation from the first team? Edited July 25 by Carmel Wafer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 2 hours ago, Carmel Wafer said: Yea, I was talking about getting someone in to fill the gap They have, a one season stop gap with MacDonald. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 11 hours ago, Dicko23 said: Had a think about it and it still sits a bit uneasy with me signing a 38 year old for this but when the alternative is playing a child in goals and potentially sniffling thier development long term its a better solution. You could always fūck off and play in an age appropriate league. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 2 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: You could always fūck off and play in an age appropriate league. The two U16's will be playing in an U18 league, and MacDonald will be playing in a senior adult league. Seems they already are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 4 minutes ago, Burnieman said: The two U16's will be playing in an U18 league, and MacDonald will be playing in a senior adult league. Seems they already are. You know what I mean. If they hadn't entered a b team in the LL, the situation wouldn't have arisen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Just now, Sergeant Wilson said: You know what I mean. If they hadn't entered a b team in the LL, the situation wouldn't have arisen. There is no "situation". B teams are allowed to field one over age player and that's all that is happening, but some are getting their knickers in a twist about it. There's an argument that perhaps more than one should be allowed to aid player development but let's not open that can of worms. Ironically even at 38, MacDonald won't be the oldest guy on the pitch tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 1 minute ago, Burnieman said: There is no "situation". B teams are allowed to field one over age player and that's all that is happening, but some are getting their knickers in a twist about it. There's an argument that perhaps more than one should be allowed to aid player development but let's not open that can of worms. Ironically even at 38, MacDonald won't be the oldest guy on the pitch tomorrow. I've got a situation. The whole premise of b teams is wrong. Anything that flows from that is wrong. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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