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5 Minutes and Yorkshire Radio is getting very anxious, there even playing Sting! :angry:

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After 9 months of trying to get the whole matter ended, the outcome of the arbitration is that Leeds United FC will be given NOWT.

Pathetic really and hopefully those League Chairman will get their comeuppance.

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f**k sake :angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:

My gut feeling is that the FL stitched the whole thing up and Bates will take further action against a few of them, that said I also think we will now go on and win the play offs, just to stick 2 fingers up against the other shitty pathetic sad League One clubs.

Bates is on Yorkshire Radio and sounds rather annoyed but willing to end things now.

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My gut feeling is that the FL stitched the whole thing up and Bates will take further action against a few of them, that said I also think we will now go on and win the play offs, just to stick 2 fingers up against the other shitty pathetic sad League One clubs.

Which part of "binding arbitration" do you not understand?

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Which part of "binding arbitration" do you not understand?

This will not be a Leeds United FC matter, I stated Bates as a personal matter, he has long said he feels he is victimised by the Football League. He is already stating that the FL chairman must resign.

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Bates-

"Total self interest from the other Chairman and everyone knows it"

"The arbitration admit that Leeds United FC have done nothing wrong, but still can't give the points back!"

"It would be great for Leeds to beat Gillingham on Saturday and send them down to Division Two, their Chairman has acted with self interest and has stated things about Leeds Unted which are totally false"

What are the other current clubs in admin going to get as they also can't get the CVA in time for season 2007/2008, if they do not get the same action then Leeds United will take financial action against the other clubs in League One

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Promotion through the play-offs, and stick two fingers up to the League and other League 1 clubs on the way up.

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I certainly didn't see this decision coming.

Well I can tell you the vast majority of Leeds United fans did, I don't know anyone who thought we would get anything back, the FL and the other clubs have their own self interest and the side effect of any points back would be massive.

Now that this has occurred the other clubs like Luton, Bournemouth and Rotherham will need to have the same happen to them, they can't get their CVA until the start of the new season, so we could see this happening regularly from now on, unless of course the FL and the corrupt chairman from the FL decide the Leeds United FC situation was a one off!

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Well I can tell you the vast majority of Leeds United fans did, I don't know anyone who thought we would get anything back, the FL and the other clubs have their own self interest and the side effect of any points back would be massive.

Now that this has occurred the other clubs like Luton, Bournemouth and Rotherham will need to have the same happen to them, they can't get their CVA until the start of the new season, so we could see this happening regularly from now on, unless of course the FL and the corrupt chairman from the FL decide the Leeds United FC situation was a one off!

I was being sarcastic. There was never any chance of you getting back your points. I can understand the prinicipal of Bates doing it, just as I understood the principal of Tom Hughes taking the SPL to court for us to stay in the Spl a few years back, but both were a complete waste of money.

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I was being sarcastic. There was never any chance of you getting back your points. I can understand the prinicipal of Bates doing it, just as I understood the principal of Tom Hughes taking the SPL to court for us to stay in the Spl a few years back, but both were a complete waste of money.

Agreed.

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Statement from Leeds United FC:

"In making the decision the panel took into account the detailed submissions made by both parties (Leeds United and the Football League). The panel were critical of the length of time taken by Leeds United in bringing this action to have the 15-point decision overturned. We feel this finding is unjust as the club sought to oppose the imposition of the penalty from the 30th August 2007 onwards.

"We did accept the imposed condition of a 15-point penalty subject to an appeal to Member clubs. As at the 3rd August 2007 we had no option but to do so. If we had not the club would have been lost forever which was far too big a price for anyone to pay. It is galling therefore that we are criticised for the delay in bringing the appeal when it was delays by the Football League that effectively backed us into this corner in the first place.

"The appeal to Member Clubs was imposed by the Football League. We have been critical of this throughout and felt justified therefore that the Tribunal felt it was unsatisfactory due to the level of vested interest in the appeal body. Leeds United will be proposing at the forthcoming Football League AGM, a change to the regulations to this effect to protect other clubs in the future.

"The matter is now closed and the focus can now return to the pitch. The decision to remain in League One was always correct from the club's perspective. If the team are now able to progress through the play-offs to the Championship, then it would be the appropriate reward for the efforts of the club's fans and players in overcoming the penalty imposed on the club."

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Promotion through the play-offs, and stick two fingers up to the League and other League 1 clubs on the way up.

To be fair, Swindon supported Leeds when asked at the start of the season (As did most other clubs in financial turmoil)

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Here is the full statement.The three man arbitration panel ('the panel') appointed by The Football Association in respect of the above mentioned appeal has rejected Leeds United's arguments that the 15 point deduction was unlawful.

In making the decision the panel took into account the detailed submissions made by both parties (Leeds United and the Football League). The panel were critical of the length of time taken by Leeds United in bringing this action to have the 15-point decision overturned. We feel this finding is unjust as the club sought to oppose the imposition of the penalty from the 30th August 2007 onwards.

We did accept the imposed condition of a 15-point penalty subject to an appeal to Member clubs. As at the 3rd August 2007 we had no option but to do so. If we had not the club would have been lost forever which was far too big a price for anyone to pay. It is galling therefore that we are criticised for the delay in bringing the appeal when it was delays by the Football League that effectively backed us into this corner in the first place. Any request by the club to alter the wording of the agreement by the Football League, as the Tribunal recognised, would have been rejected by the Board in any event so to reiterate, we had no option but to agree. It is both noticeable and significant that the panel saw fit to suggest that the Football League should look to incorporate into its Insolvency Policy clear guidelines, objectives and procedures going forward so as to make sure no other club has to be subjected to what we have had to endure if they are unable to secure the completion of a CVA.

The appeal to Member Clubs was imposed by the Football League. We have been critical of this throughout and felt justified therefore that the Tribunal felt it was unsatisfactory due to the level of vested interest in the appeal body. Leeds United will be proposing at the forthcoming Football League AGM, a change to the regulations to this effect to protect other clubs in the future.

If what football achieves out of this decision is clarity for clubs in the future (and there will undoubtedly be cases of insolvency again), then that can mitigate some of our disappointment as we want all clubs to survive through what are very difficult times.

The matter is now closed and the focus can now return to the pitch. The decision to remain in League One was always correct from the club's perspective. If the team are now able to progress through the play-offs to the Championship, then it would be the appropriate reward for the efforts of the club's fans and players in overcoming the penalty imposed on the club.

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