Ronnie Wutherspoon
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TSAR - leave the CoS/Fifa punishment issue out for the moment. Concentrate purely on the original charges, of bringing the game into disrepute, for which Rangers were found guilty and the punishment was the transfer embargo. The CoS ruled that the transfer embargo was invalid because it wasn't specifically in the rules. Now consider the statement that was made by the SFA Panel, quoted above : 'The initial judicial panel admitted they had considered throwing Rangers out of the SFA before deciding a transfer embargo was appropriate under one of the organisation's articles which allowed for sanctions considered appropriate' The SFA are handing this one back to their appeal body; the decision of the CoS means the punishment this time must be one of those specified in the SFA Articles. They are, fine, suspension or expulsion. That's how clear-cut it is now. Rangers have already been fined but the SFA Panel didn't consider that a sufficient penalty.
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Yep, I thnk what he's saying is they've tried to be pragmatic and not dish out the full punishment but that got flung back in their face. So now, punishment will be without pragmatism. And the offences they're guilty of, they've already said, are considered second only to match fixing. Here's what the rules say specifically about punishment. "123. The Board shall have the power to fine, suspend or expel any recognised football body, club, official, player, referee or other person under the jurisdiction of the Association who in its opinion, in any way brings the game into disrepute" They've already imposed a fine...
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Burkey_78 @StewartRegan in simple terms what reason did judge give 4 panel not being allowed to determine punishment as allowed in art. of ass. StewartRegan @Burkey_78 The tariff of sanctions for bringing the game into disrepute is specific and should be adhered to rigidly. I read that, along with his previous post about not being able to be pragmatic, as a large rule book about to be chucked forcefully at the big hoose. Personally I'd suspend their license for a year.
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Stewart Regan just stuck his head above the parapet on Twitter: "1. Decision to go back to appeal body who will consider remaining sanctions open to them. 2. No appeal will be made to a civil court for a football matter. 3. Two Supreme Court Judges had different opinions on the same point. 4. The Judicial Process was never questioned, simply which sanction was selected. Judges had different opinions on what was allowed. 5. A new hearing will take place at the earliest opportunity." most worringly for Rangers IMO... "We are in consultation with FIFA at present." ETA the quotation marks (cos they're his words, not mine)
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Quote from the article on the BBC website. When Dutch goalkeeper Ronald Waterreus negotiated his contract to join Rangers, in 2005, his agent questioned the tax scheme. Mr Wattereus' agent was told by a club representative in correspondence seen by BBC Scotland that using the trust was "...in the interests of Ronald as it enables him to receive funds tax-free". The representative added: "I can confirm that we will not pay these amounts to [Ronald] unless they are made through the use of the remuneration trust." The use of the word "these" is crucial there if you ask me. Had the scheme been discretionary, it would have said any amounts. By saying "these", it indicates amounts which have already been mentioned/agreed. Also as pointed out, the FD emailed Payroll to query Papac's wage drop, and (paraphrasing) "so the difference is being paid by the EBT?" Reply - "Yes", As mentioned, using EBTs to reduce tax isn't illegal, but doing so via non-discretionary EBTs, is. It certainly looks like the balance of probability test will go in HMRC's favour.
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Walking Down The Halbeath Road
Ronnie Wutherspoon replied to Parscelona's topic in Scottish Championship General Chatter
Cos it's not GTF day yet. -
Walking Down The Halbeath Road
Ronnie Wutherspoon replied to Parscelona's topic in Scottish Championship General Chatter
The (Black &) White Stripes, followed by "Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right..." inspired stuff by whoever was choosing the music - never was that more appropriate! -
Livingston - all the threads merged
Ronnie Wutherspoon replied to TheDoctor's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Neither of which will be much use once Livi get expelled for non-fulfilment, irrespective of any appeal. -
Livingston - all the threads merged
Ronnie Wutherspoon replied to TheDoctor's topic in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
Agreed. This could well render the appeal process redundant & get them kicked out. He'd have played a real blinder in that scenario.