The Master

By all means keep them in Division 1, but slap them with all the sanctions you can think of: 20 point penalty Ban on signing players (regardless if a CVA is put in place...the ban is lifted only at the discretion of the SFL board) Ban on charging admission to away fans...ahem...

They're only associate members for the first 3 years (thanks to SD in another thread for that information).

I can reveal that nobody yet knows. It all hinges on the vote on Wednesday, when the 28 other clubs with a vote (no Annan) decide what happens. Although seemingly Rankine and McDougal would attempt to take out an injunction against the SFL if there is any demotion...but that would be heard on the Thursday and would most likely fail, because: 1) The SFL rules permit them to do as they place (within the law...and demotion isn't illegal) 2) Livi agreed to abide by the rules of the SFL as part of their membership

Never mind double glazing companies: it's the furniture stores that always amuse me... Land of Leather Leather Land World of Leather Leather World etc. Each new one appearing soon after the previous has been declared bankrupt...

That sounds fair enough, but the only problem I would have is that it sounds like there could be numerous loopholes that would need identified and closed before they're even opened. So this isn't something that should be rushed through.

Which is why I don't think Livi can depend on Dundee's vote We've done it the hard way, so why shouldn't they?

Do I understand this correctly: If the SFL rule is changed, there will effectively be a brand new Livingston (e.g. "Livingston 2009") that buys the place in the league and just picks up where the old one left off?

It's now shown on Thursdays instead of Wednesdays.

Yes. Yes you have.

"Learning" is an alien concept to St Johnstone fans. Let me make it simple for you: Dundee - living within our means St Johnstone - relying on Geoff Brown pouring his money down the drain

You f**k off as well and worry about what will happen when Geoff Brown decides to stop throwing his money away.

Oh f**k off you odious cretin. Dundee have been punished: with at least 5 years of being stuck in the First Division, enduring some of the worst results and play in the club's history. The club learnt the error of their ways and are now being managed in a way that was unimaginable 6 years ago.

But, of course, it could be argued that every club has a vested interest (should that become relevant, for whatever reason). First division - would prefer Airdrie Utd, since they've prepared for the 2nd Second division - ditto, replace "Airdrie Utd" with "Cowdenbeath" and "2nd" with "3rd" Third division - want Livi to survive, so they have a full quota of teams

I keep meaning to ask - why is it Annan don't have a vote yet?

Angelo-gelo Whatever will be will be You've fucked over Livi Angelo-gelo

Liquidation, or a rule change from the SFL. But such a rule change would require a vote of all 30 clubs, surely?

Well the only things that rhyme are skivvy, "up ye" and...er...

That's a bit too hi-tech for the SFL...

Did you write the same one? I hadn't read any of these, so pretty funny and spooky if you did

There once was a team called Livi Who couldn't even afford a skivvy They broke a rule When they signed Kachloul But now I say "get it right fucking up ye"

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I think anyone nearby should nip down just to start shouting "DON'T SELL".

I'm getting some odd looks now