Hampden Diehard

Good point. I was thinking more about that walk across the pitch after Celtic had pumped United 9-0 or whatever it was at Tannadice.

To be blunt, I think a manager without a job would jump at this. Of course, Jack Ross didn't, but how did that work out for him?

Let's forget (a) Yogi, (b) anyone with an OF connection being punted by a pal in the press, (c) Yogi and (d) Yogi.

Our best days are about 130 years behind us and Scottish club sides are a joke in Europe. What Scottish managers currently looking for a job would you be keen on?

I really don't see us taking a punt on anyone without a bit of experience in Scottish football. And, no, not Yogi. We made bold appointments with Laurie Ellis and Robin Veldman (to our credit I would say) and they didn't end well. To be honest, I would have been happy if we'd retained Veldman and appointed an auld Scottish heid like Dick to help him. The squad is so young and inexperienced, we need someone who can identify a seasoned pro who can kick the erses of the guys we have and pull them together.

The sacking might mask discussion of the mistakes all too apparent on the park. We're not marking up and the opposition midfield stream through without being tracked. Whilst the manager carries the can for the results, and has done here, the players should be looking at their own performances. It's basic stuff; marking up and tracking back is in the hands of the players. We're in big trouble if the new guy can't give them a boot up the erse and get them to step up their game.

I was and have the secret of putting purchases on a belt in the right order. It was only a basket which makes the offence worse.

At the checkout and the assistant scans all the breakable/ fragile stuff before dealing with the cans and totties, so you have to wait to fill your bag.

I think both Roxburgh and Brown played for QP. Their experience of short corners at the club would explain why they preferred the ball being banged over

Queen's Park are the absolute masters at making an erse of these and have been as long as I can remember.

1) Was this not him taking part of his coaching badge, which he is going through? That was the reason for his previous trip there. 2) "everyone" and "slightest bit of criticism " - do you have access to his social media accounts to monitor this? Anyway, is it part of his job to accept anonymous stick from people? Quite frankly, if you don't have the bottle to talk to him face to face, but have a go under some alias, you can hardly complain. 3) would you have kept Tizzard on after his third /fourth howler in that game, the last of which resulted in a goal? If he had run off the park straight to the bench, there wouldn't have been anything like the stooshie. It was, I fully accept, embarrassing for the lad. 4) I don't agree that he doesn't take responsibility in interviews. I think he's quite honest and generally refers to "we". Putting your comment on him not being a nice guy into context, Putin is not a nice guy. Veldman is struggling to sort things out, that's true, but how many of our goals lost are down to player errors? A very high percentage, I'd say. It remains to be seen if he can turn things around but remember that he's working with the players presented to him and he's having them adapt to a completely new way of playing. It's in everyone's interest that the current gash run of form comes to an end.

Dog walkers are a rum lot, right enough.

Watching Cantona in a series called "Inhuman Resources", a French update on the Yosser Hughes character in Boys from the Black Stuff. He's absolutely superb.

Anything being forced on us from the US could never be deemed as petty, but this Black Friday pish is getting to me. I'm desperate to buy something. Anything. They b*****ds have trapped me and I'm being pulled in.

I keep thinking we're just about to burst into action and give someone an absolute doing. Still waiting. But ever hopeful. Saturday it is! Away win.

Many, many years ago when QP's third team, the Hampden XI, played in the Scottish amateur league with games at Lesser Hampden, one of our fans was slagging off an opposition player. The guy eventually had enough and vaulted the fence and chased the QP fan out the ground.

Irrespective of your thoughts on his suitability, if you're in the Premier with County, Livi or one of the other smaller sides, 23'6% might not be all that bad given your games against the OF won't be successful. You don't have a lot to work with in terms of resources. Anyway, a moot point. I think we'll stick with RV.

∆∆ Relegation would set us back years.

That was as bad as I've felt after a game for a while and I couldn't bear to read the posts until today. I've been pleasantly surprised that there is more of a hint of positivity amongst the understandable tears and general frustration. My main gripe with the game was that we left a man of a ten man team unmarked at the back post for the second. That's criminal. I felt for both Veldman and Bannon in their interviews. You could see that they were absolutely gutted. It'll be interesting to see what we do in the January window. I'm not up for ex-Premier jobbers but we desperately need a match winner but these guys are thin on the ground. Pointless to even think about it but I will; last season's Murray would be the ideal man to convert us into top four material. But that won't be happening.

There's a session starting at 12-30 as well.

QP played a very young team but Accies had a few with experience including Zanatta and it did seem to make a difference. Quite impressed with Archie Graham at the back.

It's great; I'm back to looking forward to games again. Home win. Goals frenzy from Paton sinks the Ravers.

Had a swatch at the highlights. The foul given for the (woefully defended) goal that looked to go straight in - never a foul. Thomas slips and lands on the ball, handling it. A yellow card? I think not. But it's Collum and you're guaranteed coming away from any game he does wondering what he sees in that twilight world he inhabits. But we'll take the five extra minutes. Sheer joy when the equaliser went in. We deserved at least a point.

Not even that thick!

Obviously.