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Interesting point in the Podcast I picked up was that Drumchapel lost money from South Challenge Cup despite winning it.
Scottish Junior Cup Finalists should earn at least £20,000 plus not including home games / hospitality etc. Sounds like may do 50/50 split next season for Junior Cup semi finals for SJFA / clubs if voted through.
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With rumours of South Challenge Cup being optional perhaps the thinking is 18 team leagues. 2 more home games for clubs but make that Cup optional for teams like Talbot etc who already have enough games and cups they are involved in. Then opens up more spots for 4th Division for likes of Annbank to come back if they want.
Would need more midweek games at start of season and an earlier start date to league. But perhaps one of ideas to get more money to the clubs as I know the reason Cowdenbeath voted for B teams that 15 home league games wasn't enough and wanted 17/18 guaranteed home league games as they had in SPFL Two?
Just a thought?
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27 minutes ago, glensmad said:
The WoSFL is based at Broadwood, but we're talking about the Scottish Junior Cup Final here which is nothing to do with the WoSFL.
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24 minutes ago, BANKIEBILL said:
Most grass pitches will be getting relaid or money spent on them at that time of year. Rugby Park still an option I guess. However given West Regionnow based at Broadwood and the stadium presumably competitively priced for these games, I'm thinking most will be there now
Yeah I know St Mirren Park will be getting re-laid but in an ideal world I think that would be best place for the final this season as a change from Rugby Park, good size for expected crowd, all seated SPFL modern ground and not too far for most clubs to travel - some Talbot / Darvel fans may disagree but been plenty of finals at Kilmarnock in last 20 years.
It seems like Cumbernauld offering far cheaper rent for the stadium than anywhere else for games so seems like all finals at our level will be played there going forward for the foreseeable future.
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1 hour ago, Vanderbilt said:
A St Cadocs v Gartcairn Joonyur Cup final would get some crowd ……
But it wont be the final. It very much looks like both semi finals should be very well attended. Whoever gets to the final I reckon will be at least 3,000 at Cumbernauld -although St Mirren Park / Rugby Park would have been a far better option this season with teams involved in my opinion.
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Beith Juniors 2 v 0 Benburb
Hurlford United 1 v 3 St. Cadocs
Thorniewood United 1 v 1 Blantyre Victoria
Cumbernauld United 4 v 1 Muirkirk Juniors
Glasgow United 2 v 1 Dalry Thistle
Giffnock 3 v 2 Easterhouse
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3 hours ago, timeforchange said:
The league have
Surely could extend league by 1 week to 10 days to allow likes of Shotts and Newmains to fit their games in so not playing Monday, Wednesday and Saturday or worse from now until 11th May. Need some flexibility below the Premier when no play off date from First Division to Third Division with our weather and pitches.
Probably a good idea to give likes of Shotts and Newmains more home games before November next season. I know it's a minefield!
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2 hours ago, wow-wee said:
The plan he has is he has been going around pro_ junior cup club's get them to propose him for chairman and that's what's now happening then once he gets voted in as most of the West club's are pro_ junior cup and care more about that cup than the league they represent? Then gets the club's to vote that all club's in the West MUST play in the joonyur cup to boost its flagging numbers and finances because he cares about nothing else .As for Alex he is reading this now as his user name is obvious on here and on this thread.
It would be interesting if all West teams had to take part in Junior Cup what kind of team Clydebank would put out if drew Talbot / Pollok / Beith etc or just stick their under 20s out.
I don't think that will happen but I can see Alex McDowall either making it mandatory or West clubs being given more financial incentives for taking part which wouldn't be a bad thing if prize money goes up further although they will need to find the prize money from somewhere...Tin hat on but at least Junior Cup is being transparent about prize money while with South Challenge Cup I havent a clue what each club gets if anything?
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Just now, Burnieman said:
I have nothing to do with Blackburn United these days, maybe play the ball not the man.
Pro/rel between LL1 and LL2 would be more than between LL and tier 6 currently, which is the point,
I dont think people trust the Lowland League to have 3 up and 3 down as so against even having guaranteed 1 relegation place never mind 3.
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I could see LL2 being an extension of East of Scotland League so West teams need to be very careful and not find themselves all but relegated again if East teams push for this and we go down a tier minus Clydebank or whoever wants to go to LL2.
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Lowland League wouldnt agree to 3 up and 3 down from LL1 and LL2 and I wouldnt trust them at all. B teams are very unappealing to be playing for all West and East of Scotland teams.
Also one of the teams who would benefit from LL2 would be Blackburn United who would far more likely be a East Premier team after removing the top 6 or 8 teams from it so I can see why Burnieman is pushing this idea.
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See you next season.
Can you all just let Johnstone Burgh be promoted. Please and thank you
Be a few grounds I have never been to or not for years like St Rochs, Renfrew and Maybole...
Should be interesting games v Ardrossan, Kilbirnie and Kilwinning at least next season for us in what I am sure will be a tight competitive league.
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Auchinleck Talbot 2 v 1 Pollok
Shotts Bon Accord 0 v 2 Darvel
Cambuslang 1 v 2 Neilston
Yoker 3 v 1 St Anthonys
Vale of Leven 3 v 1 Irvine Victoria
Eglinton 3 v 1 Carluke Rovers
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Apparently the documentary is just the first part going by the documentary maker - Myles Bonnar's twitter as seems to be getting quite a lot of folk saying about unanswered questions from the documentary on his Twitter. Or he is just saying that as he has realised half arsed it.
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Wee bump for this as a decent documentary on iPlayer called Dead Man Running about Kim Avis.
Although I did have to search online to find out why he had so much money with no real job as such as documentary didn't really go into that plus how his American 'friend' managed to be given some of his money - £70,000 in total I think.
Sorry if another thread on him but I couldn't see anything.
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Benburb 2 v 1 Arthurlie
Troon 1 v 3 Clydebank
Kilbirnie Ladeside 1 v 2 Drumchapel United
Wishaw 0 v 3 Caledonian Locomotive
Bellshill Athletic 2 v 1 Greenock Juniors
Lugar Boswell Thistle 4 v 1 Royal Albert
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3 hours ago, theesel1994 said:
Top five:
Auchinleck
Beith
St. Cadocs
Clydebank
Darvel
Auchinleck and Broxburn will beat Dalbeattie Star 5-0 and 10-0 respectively and then the two of them will draw 2-2 so Broxburn get promoted to the Lowland League. You're going to be amazed at how accurate my prediction is.
In a 3 way play off do they not do penalty kicks as well if a draw after 90 minutes I think..
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Cumnock 2 v 1 Glenafton Athletic
St Cadocs 1 v 2 Auchinleck Talbot
Renfrew 2 v 1 Neilston
Ardrossan Winton Rovers 4 v 0 Muirkirk
Threave Rovers 3 v 1 Port Glasgow
East Kilbride Thistle 4 v 2 Newmains United
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3 hours ago, GNU_Linux said:
Elsewhere:
Dalbeattie Star were daft not voting for more relegation from Lowland League as they and Gretna would likely be able to yo-yo between the two instead of likely losing to East and/or West champions every season.
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1 hour ago, Spyro said:
At the end of the day, it was the WoS that were quite happy to accept half arsed applications from teams without their own facilities and with no intention to grow their clubs within their own area. Basically just using a name for recognition but only interested in pumping money into player wages rather than growing the club.
They were happy to accept applications from the SoS region.
Now they are closing the door using the “volunteers” excuse for not being able to functionally run the league properly.
As the bottom wrung of the system, there should ALWAYS be space for new, well organised applications from their own catchment area to join the league at any time. If they didn’t rush to fill the league with teams that have absolutely no grounding or foundations, then they would not be in the position of having to turn down good clubs like Annbank if they wanting back in next season.
Every other league in this system always allow applicants to join for the next season if they are ready to go (suitable ground to play), only the West Region is different
Would much rather see Annbank back in the league than a number of teams. Last I read they were enjoying doing well at amateur level again and winning most weeks though? They would have better facilities than most clubs in the Fourth Division.
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Just checked East of Scotland League website and they have 21 clubs less than West of Scotland. 22 clubs if count Rosyth who have just folded. West of Scotland Football League could say we won't go above 80 until East of Scotland get to 80 so the pyramid doesn't get too lopsided?
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If you speak to supporters and ask them what they think St Cadocs, Drumchapel, West Park United, Rossvale, BSC Glasgow etc have brought to the league you wont get many positives unfortunately.
The recent change of names for original Rossvale to Caledonian Locomotives and even likes of St Peters refusing to travel to Campbelltown then management resigning is in my opinion amateurish while St Cadocs having no likely home of their own but spending a small fortune on their team doesn't sit well with a lot of supporters of other clubs and you have to see their point.
However I do think Threave Rovers are a good addition to the league with their own ground and very good facilities going by reports & photos I have seen plus I hope Campbelltown can pick up in next few seasons.
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Compared to B teams in Lowland League and lack of promotion places to Lowland League with them refusing to adopt East & West of Scotland Leagues 3 up and 3 down model or even at least 2 up this is such a minor irrelevance I feel.
80 clubs is a huge number of clubs for just a handful of volunteers to do admin for and arrange fixtures for etc. The workload is one of the reasons can't have another influx of 16 plus clubs.
Once East of Scotland League reaches magic 80 will there be the same debate once they say thats enough clubs thank you?
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Arthurlie 1 v 1 Troon
Largs 1 v 2 Gartcairn
Kilwinning 2 v 0 Ashfield
St Anthonys 2 v 1 Maryhill
Irvine Vics 1 v 3 Lesmahagow
BSC Glasgow 1 v 5 Thorn Athletic
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Junior Takeover
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Both teams had Meadow well beaten this season at Meadow Park and was more noise from the players than the fans & committee who were lucky to get into double figures despite scoring some great goals. We will have far bigger away supporters from almost all teams in the First Division next season unless Caledonian Locos get promotion. They may get some more home fans but very few travel compared to teams like Hurlford, Darvel and others that are slagged on here for having no fans when they actually bring at least 50 or even much more depending on time of year / how they are doing.