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Although, as people have highlighted I don't think it was them. Not enough time to fully dispose of the body and evidence.
I'd have thought if it had been either them, or someone from their circle, the stories would have unravelled before now. Who knows though.
I am sure one element of the campaign fund was relating to missing children worldwide, so presumably the money will be channeled immediately to a body responsible for investigating such things.
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I noticed the lawyer they are using to sue the Portuguese papers is doing it for free. the money isn't coming out of the campaign fund.
Anyone know what is happening to the campaign fund, now that they have sensibly decided to return home and try and get on with their lives?
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Just gonna say, in cases of child abduction or murder it's usually a close family member or friend that done it.
This is absolutely true.
The point here is that regardless of whether the McCanns or their friends had anything to do with it at all, the hysteria and outrage from their media pals, and even people on this thread when it was suggested this was possible, was outrageous.
The whole "you should be ashamed of yourself" routine was dusted off when people asked questions of the events of that night, when that was exactly where the bulk of the investigation should have been focused on, after the initial search of the area.
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Solicitor present for the "formal" interview.
Interesting.
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Personally i would like to think that it would be a similar story no matter who the parents are. However any difference in the story would be the problem of the papers, not the Mccans.
I didn't say it wouldn't, but it indicates the class bias which exists in the UK.
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Well, I don't remember the couple themselves ever expressing such reservations. Maybe the redtops, though I don't remember that either TBH.
Last week's Times and Guardian went into full scale outrage mode when it emerged that the Portuguese press were asking serious questions about the inconsistencies in the stories given, which led to an article which stated it was ludicrous to suggest the McCanns could be suspects because of their demeanour.
Make your own mind up as to why such disbelief exists in the broadsheets, and whether a similar level of disbelief would be expressed should a similar situation arise, and the parents not be white, middle class professionals.
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Where did I say "special"?
That said there is no stronger bond than that between a parent and child.
If you are not a parent you cannot relate to that.
There you go again. And that is utter rubbish.
There are terrible parents out there - absolutely awful, who have no empathy with their children at all, and whose children absolutely despise them. To try and create such a bond through accident of birth is laughable.
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I agree that unless you have experienced having a child abducted you can't fully understand what they are going through but most (all?) parents can personally relate to a child going missing for a period of time (i.e. not returning home when they were supposed to).
That's bollocks though - to appropriate some sense of "special" understanding because you have children yourself.
Almost everyone who is here will have nieces, nephews, little brothers and sisters etc. and are therefore well capable of empathising with the loss of a loved one in this situation.
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He's written tons of books , as you said, but they are truly terrible.
I've always wondered if I could write a book, then I read someone with talent and realise how hopeless I would be in comparison.
The I read someone like Jardine and think, actually, I am pretty sure I could do better than that.
I read one recently from Anthony Jimenez - who can only be described as a poor man's Grisham. Hard to believe that is possible, yet it is!
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Round of applause for that speech.
Hits nail right on head.
I thought it was good too.
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You're absolutely right, but I think it was his picture on the inside of the dust jacket which irritated me more.
I only realised when I saw he was appearing at the book festival this year that he had written several books.
Goes to show that some Publishers will print anything. I suppose he must sell enough books to make a living, against all the odds.
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Didn't like Quentin Jardine stuff. very straight-laced and the main guy in it was a rotten character - it was like he could do no wrong. Very annoying and the way it was written irritated me for a reason which I can't put my finger on.
I read one of his books and it scanned to me like something a high school pupil would write. Laughable lack of depth to any of the characters.
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I find it bizarre that people can't see that. What Joe Public thinks of them as people, parents or anything else is, I would imagine, a matter of extreme indifference to them at the moment.
On the contrary - I think it is very important to them, hence their attempts last week in the British broadsheets to repair the damage caused by the media backlash in Portugal.
They have far better chance of controlling and using a compliant media (and therefore public), than one which has turned against them. The only rule of selling newspapers is "what the public wants, the public gets".
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I think it's incredibly naive to thing they can jusy hop on a plane, come back home, forget about Madeleine and get back to work. Life is never going to be the same for them again
But that's exactly what families around the world have to do every year. There are a number of child abductions worldwide.
Because those families aren't wealthy enough to take an indefinite sabbatical, they have to go back to work and resume some kind of normality for the sake of their remaining children, albeit they may always spend their spare time still hunting, which is only to be expected.
and Gerry signs up to do a lecture at the Edinburgh TV festival. Who ever has been giving them PR advice must have been recruited from the Jade Goody team. Some of the activity has looked crass and is hard to square with finding Maddy. She wasnt in US or in Edinburgh.Well said.
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I don't really care whether they milk their fund for all its worth or not, I wouldn't swap places with them for anything.
I think anyone who contributed to that fund, with it's terms, can have no complaints about how it is being spent.
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I thought they were getting private investigators and other experts in to search for the girl and to pay for the campaign not to extend their stay in Portugal.
I would never have donated to the fund with the terms they came up with. Shockingly vague and open to abuse.
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Is the taxpayer paying their wages while they swan about in Portugal?
I would suspect they will both be off on Extended leave, though I vaguely remember hearing that Gerry had chucked his job. I suspect with his specialisation he would have no problem getting a similar role in the future however.
I know other parents whose children have died have had to return to work after a couple of weeks though. Companies tend to be sympathetic to a point, after which they insist on a return to work.
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Gerry and Kate McCann need to go home, go back to their jobs and instill some sort of "normal" day to day life for the sake of their twins. Still being in Portugal is no good for them.
Agreed.
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And what is a "normal" parent? My own kids have a lunatic P&B poster for a dad for example. There is something weird about everyone.
Especially you.
People who are weird are those who have kids
I have nieces, who have the added feature that you can hand them back to their parents and go to the pub whenever you want.
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That's how I can in some way try to understand what the McCanns are going through.
But you have no idea what the McCanns are feeling about this, any more than any of the rest of us do.
You can't project the idea of a supposed "normal" parent on the McCanns, as you have no idea what their psyche is like, or even if they are innocent of any involvement.
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I'm more having a go at a news reporter who actually thinks that is is acceptable to write that someone should be ruled out of being suspects in an investigation because "you know, they don't look like they would have done it".
Exactly. It is utterly irrelevant.
It comes back to the whole middle class thing, which really returns the thread to page 1.
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Did she really write that?
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She said anyone who had seen the anguish on their faces couldn't possibly believe they were involved. What naive nonsense.
Note that I am not suggesting they are involved, merely that to exclude them from suspicion based on their demeanour is ludicrous.
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Heard on the radio this morning the McCann's are unhappy with the way the Portuguese investigation is turning towards them and their pals.
I note the broadsheets (Times and Telegraph) yesterday were rushing to rally around.
Some daft bint in The Times thinks it is ludicrous they are even under suspicion as she can tell by "looking at their faces" that the McCanns are innocent. With this gift she could save the Criminal Justice system a fortune and prove invaluable in the anti-Terrorism stakes.
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loving the slating of the Portuguese police...British cops are much better...
Why do these two things have to be related?
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Madeleine Mccann Missing Girl
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Who knows, and I agree that it is still very unlikely. It was always a significantly more likely scenario than the abduction theory.
I've been baffled by the shock and horror when the above has been pointed out. People do nasty things every day.