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    Motherwell FC - A Thread For All Seasons

    in Scottish Premiership General Chatter

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    30 minutes ago, Blink182 said:

    How does the Kelly going to Rangers affect the Euros.

    If somehow Kelly managed to make the final team which team benefits from the club payment of a player? Assuming we are onto nothing as it's into June?

     

    28 minutes ago, MurrayWell said:

    Think his contract ends after the euros, so we'd get the payments. I don't see him getting into the squad mind you. 

    I am 95% sure he was asked to, and signed an extension. A lot of fitba contracts run out June 30th. Scottish fitba saves a months wages by having them until May 31st. 

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    Motherwell FC - A Thread For All Seasons

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    2 hours ago, MurrayWell said:

    The club have been making some really strange decisions of late, with what they are sharing and what they are not sharing. The list may not seem like a big deal to them, but when every other club is doing it, it's a really bizarre stance to take, if indeed this is a stance/tactic. 

    When you add that to the whole not telling us about player and manager contract extensions the whole thing is just weird. I don't think it's to deliberately mislead, but it's just fucking strange. 

    EDIT: Just to add to this, St Johnstone starting to announce players departing, couple of their cup winners, with a caveat of a full update being on the way, will probably just annoy folk further, given how long we've known what division we'd be playing in, in comparison. 

    The sneaky extensions part was weird (I believe the SK one was so the Chairman and ex CEO didn't have to deal with manager change in the last part of their reign, well that's my tin foil hat theory) but the release list is fine. Their contracts probably run until 31st may, the season isn't officially over yet either. It'll come. They also want to tie up a player or two before saying who's doing what.

     

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    Motherwell FC - A Thread For All Seasons

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    2 hours ago, StAndrew7 said:

     

    EB comes in, takes a stake in the club (49% or lower, otherwise why are we bothering?) and uses his skills and ideas to increase exposure of the club (via a documentary, cartoon, drama etc.) and the WS to new people and markets. 

     

    I know nothing about shares and such but I keep seeing the 49% thing and I get why it is mentioned, but how does that work if about 26% (or whatever it is) of shares currently don't belong to the Society? Surely those guys either need to disappear or in order for EB to get 49%, the Society needs to end up with even less? If EB gets 49%, I assume the hope is the Society keeps 51%, so where do all the other go? We assuming he buys those shares?

    How do the folk who want this guy to invest think the divvy of shares will end up? Or hope they will end up?

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    Motherwell FC - A Thread For All Seasons

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    39 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said:

    I understand this, and the logic is sound, but the example of this that everyone turns to is Wrexham, which, I suppose, fair enough.

    But from the off, the reason that Ryan Reynolds is involved is that he does have "f**k Off" money. They lost £5 million on their way back to the EFL. Fair play, that's an 'investment' of sorts, with the debt to the owners sitting at $9,000,000, and 7.25% interest being charged on that. Quite how that all shakes out in the long term is anyone's guess. Will they be a Premier League club? Probably not. Will some other group see it as an opportunity and jump on board? Maybe?

    For all the Barmack chat about him "building the club up" and things like that, he a) doesn't have that kind of money, and b) building it up to... who? An international audience? Fine, like, there's probably an audience for that, but even on a smaller scale to Wrexham, it simply doesn't make sense to me. If you're "building up", by definition, you're reaching out to people who probably aren't going to become deeply committed to "our wee club". It will be a fleeting, transient interest, when the premise is to build it over a long time in order to try and recoup some of the significant outlay put down. If you're seeking a local audience to grow? I'm not sure that works either.

    At best, to me, you end up just marginally better off. At worst, you end up with a fucking chaotic amount of debt to service to someone who ultimately; doesn't actually give a f**k about the club and the well being of the folk that actually turn up. Maybe he writes it off, maybe he ends up divorced and needs as much money back ASAP. 

    Clubs across Scotland seem absolutely desperate to grab a short-cut to wealth. Say what you like about guys like Burrows at the club, but he certainly seemed to subscribe to the long haul, of doing the right thing for a long time, every time, gaining you kudos and respect and ultimately, a steady footing. 

    Not a dig at anyone in favour of this kind of planning and seeking investment from people like Barmack, but it simply is not for me, and I find the headlong rush into it by ourselves and other clubs across scotland, hugely concerning.

    Nailed it

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    Motherwell FC - A Thread For All Seasons

    in Scottish Premiership General Chatter

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    52 minutes ago, well fan for life said:

     

    I appreciate they make a lot of noise from the Hunter stand but they also do some weird stuff. Like encouraging all supporters to wear claret & amber for the final home game then unveiling a red, white & blue Bologna banner for...some reason? I like Bologna a lot. It's a beautiful city and their team is doing well but I'm no sure where that came from. If it's the Ferguson/Scottish thing then even Accies would have more a reason to do that. Pyro/smoke also adds hee haw for me other than being stinking.

     

     

    There is a few of them that have been to Bologna games a few times. Dunno how it started but I've seen it from a few guys I know. (i'm actually insanely jealous) It's the same NEC and Aalesunds. Except there is a fairly obvious link there. I actually agree with all you've said

    8 minutes ago, Desp said:

    *we definitely won't.

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    Motherwell FC - A Thread For All Seasons

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    1 hour ago, eliphas said:

    Based entirely on rumours or on info about the deal you shouldn't be party to yet?

    Nah, not only. I also can't understand why someone would want to invest in a Scottish football team. Never mind someone who has zero links to the club or town. That's just off putting. 





    As for the noisy singing/ultra section. I reckon they just want more exposure. 

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