LongTimeLurker

You can always withdraw an application, so they could have put one in with the EGM deciding whether to proceed with it.

But he also said this: ..."The likelihood is that junior football will move into the pyramid system, and we will move to achieve that entry level and possibly higher. "Because if we're in there we want to do as well as we possibly can. Although we've no ambitions to do it, if we're going to be going in there we'll be doing as best as we can, and that means our facilities as well... so it's not quite a Whitburn and the superleagues scenario.

Will over 10,000 be showing up at a ground like Brockville or Love Street? Most of us can remember when that was the norm for the semis. It's still a big deal, but it's not as big a deal as it used to be.

Saw somebody on the junior subforum claiming last night that it's only Penicuik that definitely want to stay junior in Mid- and East Lothian terms.

The deadline for the application isn't until Sunday, so they could still put the form in prior to this EGM, which they may have had to give a certain amount of notice for under their constitution. What I find interesting is they tweeted this information out about an EGM after the survey results info from Tom Johnston went online (which they had sent out a retweet about).

So presumably the application is already in and this is to ratify it.

Will be interesting to see what the decision is on this at the clubs that have put applications in. If the goal is the LL and beyond in the years ahead, the EoS may still provide the easier pathway.

To be fair to the guy the superduper league thing a couple of years back did look like a way to try to get in at tier 5 alongside the LL in a moderately sensible and coherent sort of way. In England the Isthmian League and Southern League that covered much the same area because historically one had been amateur while the other was part-time professional were both allowed to feed into the conference in the 1980s after the Isthmian league had initially given the pyramid concept the bodyswerve, because respecting old arrangements isn't necessarily a bad starting point for merging previously separate structures. Seriously doubt it will happen as I don't think the SFA will be in a rush to license lots of junior clubs, but a strong case can still be made for tier 5 entry for the west superleague as the best way to quickly deal with the geographical imbalance caused by the LL's membership being largely drawn from the old EoS premier.

Weird phrasing. Maybe "sooner" means "immediately" here.

Joining at tier 6 and tier 5. The latter had more support obviously.

More the influx of the SJFA member clubs in general. If the SFA wanted it to happen, they could simply have told the three regions to affiliate directly at the very outset of the process, but chose not to. All the SJFA does is run the junior cup and a semi-pro level national team given the SFA already do things like player registration and match official appointments for junior clubs, so the whole idea of separate grades is an anachronism. The problem with a mass influx of junior clubs into the senior grade pyramid from the SFA's standpoint is that subsidy money will get split many more ways if most junior clubs achieve licensing. The bar on entry level was set very low to make it possible for the likes of Golspie Sutherland to achieve it, so that could conceivably happen.

Well that throws the cat amongst the pigeons, because I seriously doubt the SFA actually ever wanted this to happen.

To put the numbers in perspective, by my reckoning 17 of 60 east region clubs are in the HL catchment if the Tay Bridge boundary is accurate (and the LL secretary seems like a credible source). Once you get past 10 clubs moving you are looking at about a quarter of the junior membership in Perth, Fife, Stirlingshire, Clackmannanshire and the Lothians. Both the EoS and the east region juniors would be profoundly different from what they have been previously at that point and old assumptions about their relative quality no longer apply. Having said that 10 clubs actually going through with it when all is said and done is still in believe it when I see it territory as far as I am concerned. Posts like that of drs should be taken seriously.

Good to get that cleared up. That makes the Broughty (presumably?) licensing scenario interesting to watch.

Any particular reason? Vaguely remember somebody on their committee being pro-pyramid on here at one point, but that could easily be a personal opinion as with Tynieness where Bo'ness is concerned. AFJ spilled the beans a few days back on where Bo'ness stand over on the Tony Kempster forum (assuming there aren't two Linfield supporters that also back Camelon kicking about): http://nonleaguematters.co.uk/forum/gforum.cgi?post=862409#862409 I have a friend who is at Bo'ness and he tells me that while some want to progress to the EoS and then LL, most of the committee are happy where they are, so he does not expect any announcement to this end. so that's an example of the online people not necessarily being in synch with the rest of the club.

My guess would be Dunipace given Denny is not much more than walking distance from Camelon.

Latest from the juniors subforum: very different from this from last weekend: although he later clarified that it might only be 2 or 3 of the East Premier teams listed, so that wasn't necessarily actual applicants.

...which is a very different breakdown from the scenario we were being told by Hamish the Goalie last weekend, which had 1 East Super, 5 East Premier and 1 East South division team jumping, but you are obviously closer to the action in EoS terms. East Super: Camelon, Bonnyrigg, ??? East Premier: Dalkeith, ??? East South: ???, ??? West: ???

Looks like finding somebody literate to do some form filling may also be on the agenda in Gorebridge: and there was even this from a Linlithgow Rose supporter (a regular windup merchant, so not sure what to make of it):

...suspect the EGM won't be because they suddenly want to change their name to Celtic. Given who is already known to be moving so far, them, Tranent, Newtongrange Star and Penicuik are likely candidates for the next set of dominoes to fall. This post from a Lithgae Rose supporter could be some kind of windup given what he regularly gets up to on the Bo'ness United thread but was still quite intriguing:

If there had been a pyramid league structure around 1970 or so it could have happened given Accies were the Cowdenbeath of that era so ever is a wee bit too categorical, and what he is probably referring to is the 750k that was lost by Accies through a banking scam. Think the Greg Docherty transfer should have stabilised things again. Hope so anyway.

Where are these 45% and 55% numbers coming from?