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  1. 1 hour ago, git-intae-thum said:

    Obviously it comes from current contributions. Which makes this a real non story.

    Unfortunately there are still plenty of dumplings that buy the "paying into the big UK pot" story and they are exactly the demographic that such unionist propaganda is aimed at.

    The logical assumption is that Scotgov will finance pensions similar to how UK gov does just now........Unless we can build up some kind of sovereign wealth fund (aka Norway) .....you know like Scotland should have been able to do over the last 40 years, if it hadn't been saddled to a big leech.

     

    "Saddled to a big leech". Love it.

    Things must be desperate it DPB has spun the 2014 wheel of shite and landed on Pensions.

    I'll consider that one after I've done a bit of bin diving for the kids tea and flung the frozen corpse of grandma Agnes into the canal. When the C1 demographic starts to think that the UK is a busted flush, that's the tipping point. I think we're at that now.

    The poor and vulnerable are facing destitution despite the SG offering a bit more support to these groups. The formerly "just getting by" are about to get a kicking. When you don't see any benefit to your hard work, financial struggle and hardship ahead and your children having potentially fewer life chances and a lower standard of living than you- it's not so much of a jump.

    Factor in the circus down south and the fact that STILL, England can't face voting for Labour, I mean, come on.

  2. 1 hour ago, Scott Steiner said:

     

    If you want to save face by walking away then I'll let you do that, but I strongly suspect the only reason you give all these conditions are that you know I'm loaded with examples.

    You don't want to hear them.

    Oh, absolutely I do.

    Be my guest. Load me up with your examples. 

    Looking forward to this. I'll check in tomorrow to see what you've cobbled together. 

  3. 10 minutes ago, Scott Steiner said:

    I do indeed have examples, but have not been asked for them.

    Page 14, "seven years on" thread, I said.....

    "I'm all ears Scott. How can I prove you wrong if you don't give examples? You made the statement. Back it up with evidence.

    I think the UK is no longer respected. I think policy has been detrimental to our standing in the world. If I'm wrong, explain to me why I'm wrong."

     

     

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  4. 45 minutes ago, Scott Steiner said:

    I see you're still digging.

    I've just checked out page 14.  Are you referring to the following exchange?

    Steiner: "Dare to suggest that Britishness can be a force for good and many will look like they are about to spontaneously combust."

    Mr Speckled: Give me two tangible examples of something that Britain has done in the last five years, in isolation, that can legimately be described as a force for good and made the world a better place.

    So basically what happened was that I was telling The Kincmeister how ludicrous many are with regards to Britishness, and instead of countering my point you tried to reframe it, and add your own parameters/conditions by asking me a heavily loaded question.

    Instead of saying 'Britishness is bad because (ENTER REASON HERE), you went down a bizarre, desperate route.. not even talking about British but the actions of Britain.. and adding a time limit, with it having to be in isolation and having made the world a better place!

    You've just scored an own goal.

    And in terms of page 17, yes, you do indeed play the man.

    Attaboy! 

    At last some research. Sadly, still no examples of how "Britishness" can be a force for good of course, despite all your flannel about how it was a "loaded" question or "reframed". It's progress nonetheless. You also said you had examples. Guess not, eh?

    If playing the man was calling out Kincardine's "pure blood" pish on Saturday gin night, then firstly I'm guilty as charged and secondly, truth hurts eh?

     

  5. 34 minutes ago, Scott Steiner said:

    Can you come up with an example of this happening?

    Methinks not, because I'm always able to back up what I say.  I've never accused you of playing the man merely for challenging me.

    That's easy enough. 

    Check out page 14 of the "seven years on" thread for a detailed and comprehensive example of not answering, bluster and not providing evidence to back up your assertions.

    Page 17 of the same thread sees you say:

    "Glad I'm not the only one that's noticed Speckled Orange's tendency to play the man."

    HTH.

    Enjoy your night.

     

     

  6. Just now, The_Kincardine said:

    I know you  love 'playing the man' but in the big devolved areas which I highlighted - health, education, local government and transport - the Holyrood administration is letting Scotland down.

    That you refuse to acknowledge this and refer to it as 'wild stuff' is why Scotland is being sold short by an incompetent regime.

    Not at all mate. 

    The Scottish Government could and should be doing better.

    This on the other hand...

    10 minutes ago, speckled tangerine said:

    Attitudes the imigration:  The  Scotch want a hard border with England in order to keep the purity of the race.

    Really? This is bullshit. Absolute unmitigated bullshit. Shameful from you.

  7. 7 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

    Societal views:  The Scotch continue to support the defunding of the NHS, the devaluing of education, the undermining of  local democracy and the dilapidation of national transport.
    Attitudes the imigration:  The  Scotch want a hard border with England in order to keep the purity of the race.

    The much that unites us is being whittled  down by so many Scotch supporting extremist Nationalism allied to a tolerance of incompetence and mendacity.

     

    This is absolutely wild stuff here. Part of me hopes that Kincardine is simply a guy out of touch and out of time but every weekend this stuff gets more and more angry.

  8. 15 minutes ago, Scott Steiner said:

    So is he a fascist then?

    Yeah. We think he's a fascist. It's up to you to prove he's not.

    That's your M.O. on every other thread, no?

  9. 6 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

     

    The bigger picture is that we've enjoyed free movement of people, goods and labour for our common weal for centuries and  to introduce borders and end these freedoms is nasty, pernicious and  small-minded.  Implementing it requires one to 'other' England and this is a fatuous and unjustifiable idea.

    I bet your cronies down in Bucks could not give one f**k about this part......and that's gotta hurt.

  10. 1 minute ago, Scott Steiner said:

    I made the statement, so it's up to you to try and change my mind with logic and facts if you want to dispute it.

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    So, you have nothing. Absolutely no examples from recent times on how this nation has improved the world to the admiration of others?

    Not one.

    That's damning.

  11. 1 minute ago, Scott Steiner said:

    It's actually up to you to prove me wrong I'm afraid.

    I made the original statement which you appear to be questioning, whilst sleekitly adding your own parameters.

    I'm all ears Scott. How can I prove you wrong if you don't give examples? You made the statement. Back it up with evidence.

    I think the UK is no longer respected. I think policy has been detrimental to our standing in the world. If I'm wrong, explain to me why I'm wrong.

    Unless you have nothing, of course.

  12. 4 minutes ago, Scott Steiner said:

    Love how you narrowed it down with time, isolation and impact on the world conditions as well as it having to be at least two examples.  It's almost like you seek a particular answer instead of the truth.  Unfortunately for you, I don't subscribe to the ridiculous belief that I must adhere to such a reframe and instead choose to stick to my firm belief that British can be and is a force for good in the world.

    'Legimately' no doubt means you'd dispute any answer anyway 😆

    I put the last five years as I would be interested to see what you believe how this country has improved the world here and now.

    You come up with examples and we'll throw it open to all and sundry to debate the legitimacy.

    There's no doubt that Britain was once seen favourably. I don't think that's been the case for sometime. Prove me wrong.

  13. 12 minutes ago, Scott Steiner said:

     

    Dare to suggest that Britishness can be a force for good and many will look like they are about to spontaneously combust.

    Give me two tangible examples of something that Britain has done in the last five years, in isolation, that can legimately be described as a force for good and made the world a better place.

    I'll wait.....

  14. 7 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:
    14 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said:
    It's only waffle because you disagree?
    Anyway, to answer your question directly, I think the nationalisation of the energy companies could be described as far left.
    As an industry it is flawed and requires more regulation. But go and have a conversation with anyone who worked in a nationalised energy company and then a non nationalised company and see what their view is.
    You may not see that as far left, but I do.
    I'm not sure why me having a view on Corbyn has you so rattled. Is that you Jeremy? 

    Thanks for confirmation of your political naivete. Public ownership of utilities is a far left policy? Jesus wept.

    He'll get some shock (ha!) when he realises the French State owns EDF. The fucking bolsheviks.

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