ford prefect
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All the more reason to be independent. The union corrupted this country...
This is tragic bollocks. The Weege is a city up to its neck in Empire and in retained wealth. A city whose industry developed first on cotton from Scots-owned and slave-laboured cotton plantations whose raw material was sent back to Glasgow for processing to tobacco from Scots-owned and slave-laboured tobacco plantations in the Indies. Not forgetting sugar plantations - owned and operated by Scots with slave labour.
Once it was cheaper to refine tobacco and cotton elsewhere Glasgow moved on to metal refining and metal bashing to provide and provided many hundreds of thousands with employment from shipyards on the Clyde to steel foundries in Motherwell - all oiling the Scottish economy and all enriching Scottish employees, managers and factory owners.
You said, "Much of the nation became an isolated backwater and people became our greatest export." and this is a damnable lie. It was the Union and Empire allied with the Protestant Reformation which saved Scotland from being a provincial backwater. Yes, we exported people but, more importantly, we exported manufactured goods and, more significantly, our post-Reformation learning ranging from the educated Scots who ran the East India Company and the Hudson's Bay Company to writing the blueprint of the modern world's economy.
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This "people just want it done" will hopefully pump the Tories at the next election up here. Completely ignore how Scotland voted. Not bad for the party who say the UK is a partnership of equals. The Tories really are vile scum and the enemy of the working class
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Wilco were brilliant last night. Nels Cline is an amazing guitarist
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Of course not. It's only the good ship brittania that can ever prosper alone...Would the same logic and foresight be applied to an Independence vote by you ??1 -
Long term gain? You do realise in the 50s and 60s our GDP growth was lower than EEC countries when there was only 6 members. Now there's 27. What makes you think we'll be better off leaving now? Madness
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Gotta love the term remoaner. It's a term thrown about by people who are too stupid to realise how much long term damage leaving the EU will cause us as a country. Usually preceded or followed by the phrase "why don't they just get on with it? Or "leave means leave" absolute fucking roasters
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Engaging with unionists is like convincing flat earthers of their folly. None as blind as those who won't see.
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So you would raise taxes to bridge some of the £13Bn deficit.blah blah blah £13Bn blah blah blah....
Even though you keep saying it, it doesn't make it true
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It's a real shame when bigotry and xenophobia stops you wanting to be part of an independent forward thinking country. Even on a thread for positive points on the union, none are given. Sad times...
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You really don't get it. All our money goes to Westminster and we get pocket money minus our contributions to vanity projects that have no benefit to us. Why are we the only country in the world that can't take responsibility for ourselves and our spending. Why can't we be independent? Doing shite in a Union is not a good argument for wanting to stay in it
We spend 13 billion more than we take in. Cuts would have to be made in an independent Scoland. Would you cut money to the nhs, police, schools ? Maybe something else.0 -
Maybe not fund HS2, trident replacement? That's a good start
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The £13 billion he keeps rattling on about? [emoji23]It's from a set of figures that has the Celtic nation's portion of the debt as greater than the UK deficit. It's a report which should start "once upon a time...."[emoji23
ETA the UK has fucked Scotland over so we shouldn't try to go it alone? A vote for independence is a vote to leave the EU? A partnership of equals? You're servile beyond belief
[emoji23] What a lot of absolute drivel.Maybe you can answer Malkys question ? [emoji848]
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It's because the only thing they can repeat time after time is "13 billion" "sterlingisation" "anti English" "natsi's" on a loop like some fucking broken malfunctioning Mr T in your pocket. Bigotry and xenophobia. That's their reasons for staying in the UK and they try to tar the independence movement with the same brush, when it's nothing of the sort.
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Collateral damage unfortunatelyCan't agree with that, poisoning innocent animals.
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P&B needs to know. Are the chickens deid?
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We'll answer that when you explain why Scotland has 50% of the UK deficit and when you add it to Wales and Northern Ireland's deficit, it adds up to more than 100% of the UK deficit, as described by your holy bible the Gers figuresOfcourse it was simplistic. The audience on here thinks you can spend more than you earn and still be subsidising the people who are giving you money. I tried desperately to dumb it down so they could understand it.
I've said before I've no doubt an independent Scotland could be viable with some hard spending choices being taken. I just want to know where Nationalists believe those austerity cuts should be made0 -
Whereas the Tory party and their determination for a no deal Brexit is doing what with our futures? Being in the UK whatever the cost. Absolute madnessNope. Australia adopted a new currency in 1910 and tried to link it to Sterling. In 1914 Sterling stopped being linked to the Gold Standard which caused the Australian economy to suffer huge inflation. Then when Sterling was linked again with the gold standard the nominal gold price cause massive deflation which pre dated the Great Recession. It took nearly 60 years for the Australian economy to recover
Its a classic example of how not having complete control of your own fiscal levers can leave your economy wide open. Sterlingisation would be devastating for Scotland. Starting afresh with a new currency makes more sense but it will come with massive costs and risks. Nationalists who argue otherwise are playing fast and loose with all our futures.
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I probably shouldn't be by now, but I'm still amazed at the happiness people feel over running Scotland down and pointing out every negative of independence, while ignoring the fact that right now has to be the most depressing period in politics in the UK since the 80s. No matter how shite it gets...rule brittania. Absolute Stockholm syndrome victims
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That's pish if true. Saw public enemy years ago. 2 hours of brilliance!Gods of Rap tonight. Gutted that it seems to just be a few tunes from De La Soul and PE. Would've loved to have heard a load of stuff off It Takes A Nation Of Millions.... and given it was sold as a celebration of all three albums.0 -
Just out of Dave Hause. Fucking brilliant from start to finish
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It'll be fun to see the Scottish Tories bleating about a once in a generation vote up here but it's ok at Westminster to have as many as you want until you get your desired result. Feels very strange that for once I'm relying on the dup bigots to save the day
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So you'd agree that we can only do what we actually want to do if we leave?
What a load of tripe. Scotland and England joined together as a union 312 years ago, The reason England has the majority of input to the parliament is because it haste vast majority of the people. It's the same reason why Catalonia only has a marginal say in Spanish politics or Rhode Island only have a few votes in the US electoral college.
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Absolutely. "Netflix original" used to be a sign of quality. Now they do that much of their own stuff, quality is definitely suffering.Does anyone else feel like the shite to decent ratio on Netflix is creeping up?
I've started and chucked 4 things in a row before I found something alright, but where are the Narcos, Expanses, early House of Cardses these days?
Behind the curve was brilliant though. The gyroscope bit had me in stitches0 -
I've just been advised that they do and there's a beaver in the middle....Has Forres still got all those wonderful flower beds?0
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Scotland has 50% of the UK deficit. Anyone who believes that is trolling or really shouldn't be out without a carer