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Is James Cairney only allowed a limited number of articles in the Glasgow Times? He's been quiet for a while. Maybe waiting to see what happens at the game tomorrow.

A very good point and one that's been overlooked by some. If that's what had been suggested while Colin was still alive then I doubt there would have been much dissent, although there would have been misgivings. Concerns at a Trust with Club Board appointees controlling the Club was the reason stated back in 2019 as to why this could not happen, and yet here we are.

The sole director of 3BC invites the unelected and unrepresentative PTFC Trust to build a meaningful relationship with the Club, and steps away to become (checks notes...) the chairman of the Club. Now do you get it?

The bit you're missing is that the fulfillment of "Colin Weir's wishes" is what we are being told by Three Black Cats via the football club, is the issue that made them dismiss the Foundation bid and accept/manufacture the PTFC Trust bid. Those wishes remain obscure, and at the Foundation EGM were stated to have been subject to "legal privilege" according to Three Black Cats.

I was at the Foundation EGM last night and listened carefully to the presentations from representatives from Hearts and St Mirren. Neither of them were in the position that we are in right now. In both cases they had a club in imminent danger from disinterested or effectively bankrupt owners, and I suppose that the jeopardy introduced by that must have had a strong galvanising effect in terms of fan action. In the Q&A session, one of the St Mirren folk said that not all of their fans were fully convinced by the prospect of fan ownership, but that it was scepticism around the survival of the fan bid rather than outright rejection. Thistle of course have to find a different way to to mess things up. After promising fan ownership (I thought this was brilliant back then BTW, despite some anxiety about the process), the club setting in place a Working Group, and a Foundation growing from that Working Group with supposed links back to the club via selected boardroom appointments of former Working Group members, it turns out that this wasn't what Colin Weir had in mind after all. If only someone from Colin's company Three Black Cats had been involved in the club then we might have known that earlier (eye roll emoji). Where we find ourselves now is like the kid who has been promised a real Thunderbirds Tracey Island, but who wakes up on Christmas morning to the Blue Peter version made from bog roll holders. It's the same feeling of wanting to be grateful to the person who has taken the time to make the Blue Peter version, whilst resenting the fact that the real version was what we were expecting when the wrapping paper came off on 16 August. The question is what we do with our Blue Peter fan ownership. Because despite all protest, we are not in charge and we can't go to the shops and buy our own real version. I still think that Three Black Cats need to be clearer about what Colin Weir meant. That would at least be a starting point to understanding how all of this mess can be unravelled. If he truly wanted the club to control the fan shares then fine, we need to deal with that and get on with supporting the team on the pitch. But where there's a void, folk fill in the blanks in a way of their choosing. We are long overdue some answers.

Email update from The Jags Foundation The TJF match-day stalls are back Common sense has prevailed. This morning Jacqui Low contacted the Foundation on behalf of the Club Board and advised that, after all, The Jags Foundation would be permitted to have stalls in the John Lambie and Jackie Husband Stands as before. This is the correct decision, and we are grateful to those who clearly understood the ridiculousness of the situation and urged a change of course. This means that we will be able to distribute McParland Pins as originally planned this evening. We intend to have our stalls set-up in their usual places on the concourses from around 7:15pm up until kick-off. We know that feelings have run high in recent weeks, because Thistle fans feel very strongly about what is right for our club. We had previously urged the Club and Three Black Cats to work with us on a joint statement urging moderation and respect for other members of the wider Thistle community. This was declined at the time. We hope that this decision signals a move in that direction on their part. For the avoidance of doubt, we urge everyone to conduct themselves respectfully towards their fellow fans, and encourage them to listen to what the PTFC Trustees have to say and to engage with them civilly and politely. They deserve a fair hearing, even though we have grave reservations about what they have planned for our club and how those proposals were arrived at. Now, our own attentions turn to the match itself, where we will all be hoping that Ian McCall’s men can secure three points and get our league campaign heading in the right direction. These people have the patience of saints.

I may be very naïve but that seems overly cynical. I think it's much more likely that they were busy doing some scenery rearrangement so that as one door was closed, another opened.

As to how this all plays out, my bet is that the club/3BC simply clams up about it all and hopes it becomes another stooshie that's been had, oh dear what a shame, never mind, eat yer dinner. That's apparently been their approach throughout this whole affair, as reported by The Jags Foundation once the gag was off. Limited information released via diktat, elusive on the requirements of any fan led bid, high handedness when dealing with the Foundation and so on. Do the fans have the bottle to seriously challenge this? We'll see soon enough...

There will be people actually thinking that

I'm definitely not dismissing this out of hand. There are plenty of clubs with different models of fan ownership nowadays. One thing I'd ask folk to bear in mind is that fan ownership doesn't mean the fans running the club, in the same way that David Beattie and other shareholders were happy until recently to have a separate board running the club. For the avoidance of doubt I'm not involved with the new group, but I served on the Jags Trust many years ago.

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There's an old guy that sits behind me who is a constant moaner and only rarely has anything positive to say. Yesterday his mate said to him "who was that losing the ball on the far side?" and the old guy said "Storey, or Horror Storey as I'm going to start calling him". Honestly the highlight of the match for me. You have to laugh... no, you do... go on...

Not impressed that the game on 23 September has been moved back by an hour to make certain that we encounter pissed up Old Firm fans on our way to the game (rather than it just being a possibility). I really don't get the reasoning behind this. The game at Ibrox will be over at say, 1.50pm and by the time the roasters are in full swing (from whatever side), we'd have been safely inside Firhill. Kicking off our game at 4pm guarantees that the fannies will be coming into pubs where Jags and Jambos are having comradely chat and we'll be forced to listen to their shite and tolerate being patronised. Pish. Utter pish.