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Westfield Park (Dunipace?). I log in to this thread every morning, not just because its the most interesting one on P & B but to find out if there will ever be a game that Bo'ness actually lost!

Could be three if Rossvale make it as well. But hold on, are they not from East Dunbartonshire? But maybe it would be back to two if Rob Roy go down, they are East Dunbartonshire as well. My head hurts, is Barrhead in greater Glasgow or Renfrewshire or where?

Never held you back in the past, but hopefully with the worst of the weather now behind us it will be a resumption of normal service.

Never known so little activity on this thread. Has Glensmad gone on holiday again?

Thanks for info about Matt Cummings. I have passed it on. He has good memories of his time with Bo'ness but just wanted a reminder of what he had achieved while there. It was sixty years ago after all, others here are complaing of their memory playing tricks after just ten years!

Back with another request, last night I was doing a talk for a church mens group in Kincardine and I was speaking to a former Bo'ness player. His name is Matt Cummings and he played in the late 1950's up front, either centre forward or outside right (that takes you back!). He was quite successful, scoring quite a few goals but had a leg break from which he apparently did not make a full recovery and eventually left the club. He reckons a young striker came in, he thinks from Kilsyth St Patricks, a juvenile club, who was scoring freely and went on to play for Peterborough. His name may have been Reilly, any further information?

Adam makes his statement on the park, he dosn't need anyone else to broadcast it to world.

Adam Forsyth is by far the best striker in the league, Who told me? His Dad!

710 goals scored in championship so far this season. With almost a third of games still to play can it reach 1000?

Good to see Nicky Prentice doing well, he was outstanding at Killsyth and looked a certainty to get picked up by a senior club. Still time for hime to get there. Send him back if you like! PS just realised that Bo'ness now are a senior club.

Well we beat Irvine Meadow easily enough and gave Hurlford a game earlier in the season so I think your statement has little merit. Agreed our current form is not nearly good enough and we accept (or almost all Kilsyth fans do) that we will be in the same division and visiting Darvel, Whittlets, St Roch, et al, next season. No point in forecasting what will happen to teams at our level a year from now as things can change so rapidly. Who would you have said would do better in the Premier at the end of last season, Petershill or Meadow? Just look at how it has turned out.

Very good, the third record is that he also scored in every round of the competition. We had no byes that year so nobody could beat that although it may possibly have been equalled. It is a common misconception that all four goals were headers, one was a rather lucky knock in from close range but they all count. There is film of the final, it is on a dvd called Glory Days and it the oldest known colour footage of Hampden as it was in its full glory before its redevelopment into the rather soulless arena that it is now. If you ever visit the museum at Hampden they will let you view it by arrangement .

A question for you, probably an easy one. What three scoring records does a former player of Bo'ness hold in regard to the Scottish Junior cup?

I reckon that would be Harry Pinkerton, he had come to us from Falkirk at the beginning of that season and scored 11 goals. There is no record of him being with us the following year so my first thoughts were that it might have been him. However I cheated and by looking up the Bo'ness team in the final in Tom Purdie's book of all Scottish Junior cup finals 1946-75 got conformation. I didn't know he was a Kilsyth man though.

A 0-0 draw in your last match is hardly 'in form' although certainly an improvement in what has gone before. However a win has to come sometime and today would be a good day to start.

Currently this is the best thread on P &B, well I think so anyway. Mention of the huge crowrs that Dundee Violet used to attract in the immediate post WW2 days, Kilsyth had drawn them in the 4th round of the Scottish in 1946/7 season. The fiirst round was at Dundee on the 2nd January, a thursday, but obviously a holiday. . Kulsyth took a reported 3000 fans in two special trains accompanied by the Kilsyth Thistle pipe band. The crowd was given as 12545, not sure about the venue. It ended 1-1 and the replay at kilsyth on the 11th January ended 0-0. The second replay was at Annfield in Stirling on the 18th which Vilet won 4-1`, no record of attendances ast these games. The following season we met Haddington in the 1st round of the Scottish, the first two matches as Kilsyth and Haddington were both drawn; the second replay was at Easter Road in Edinburgh on 20yh September with a 5-45 pm kick off. It went bto extra time with Haddington 4-3 ahead but the ref evenyually abondoned the game due to bad light. no floodlights then. The third replay was at Bo'ness on the 27th september with Haddington finally taking the tie with a 5-4 victory. I wonder if there is any record of trhis game in the Bo'ness paper? Must have a look on my next visit to Falkirk library.

Jimmy Harrower had played at Kilsyth around 1952/3 , moderately successfull scored 9 goals that season. Our top scorer that year was Martin Mulhall with 38, the elder brother of trhe much more successfull George (Aberdeen & Sunderland). Jimmy Harrower played for Hibs, Liverpool, Newcastle, St Johnstone, Falkirk and Albion Rovers, got goals everywhere he went. Ended up at Sauchie who would still be a juvenile team then I think. There seems to have ben quite a few who played both at Bo'ness and Kilsyth, Gibby Ormond did and I remember a centre forward, Goldie also coming to us. Which of the Steedman brothers played for Bo'ness, both Jack and Charlie played at Kilsyth around 1952. I think at least one of them played senior at one time before going into club management and administration famously taking Easdt Stirlingshire to Clydebank. The rest, as they say, is history

An amazing turnaround for Meadow over the past twelve months. this time last year not even challenging for a promotion place (top six) Sneaking in to the premier in last spot and now looking like a top four finish in the top division. Not jealous , but certainly envious of your success, there is a difference, it has been earned.

Thanks for that info, quite a bit earlier than I thought. It all adds to his history which I only have in detail for his time at Kilsyth. He scored 260 goals with us in 6 seasons. The next question of course, which will be much harder to answer is how many did he score with Forth Rangers? I know he did have some time at sea so it might not be easy. He was spotted by Kilsyth towards the end of the 1952-53 season playing for a Stirlingshire select in what I believe was a one-off tournament, possibly the R S McColl trophy. Mostn of the team were Kilsyth players as we had a very decent side that season although it did not compare with the following seasons squad. We did not sign Alex until about six games into the season and already six different players had worn the no 9 jersey. He scored in his first six games and went on to get 60 goals that season, so you can say it was a very good buy. Once again thanks.

Just been having a look through this thread. Lots of interesting stuff especially the older bits from the 50's thru to the 70's and 80's. A lot of mentions of players who were also at Kilsyth; Jimmy Harrower, went to Liverpool; Gibby Ormond (Airdrie); Eric Sinclair (Dundee) and a few others less well known. I have a question, I believe our all time top scorer Alex Querrie, had a spell with Bo'ness probably around 1951/2. He worked in BP and went to sea on their merchant fleet for a while before returning and playing for Forth Rangers from whom we signed him in August 1953. Do you have any records of his time with Bo'ness? Appearances, goals scored, etc. I don't think it likely that he could have been with Bo'ness for very long, but any information gratefully received.

Great stuff! Blairgowrie had some very decent teams in that era and were well supported in their cup runs. The previous ground record of 4600 at Davie park was in a sixth round tie v Kilsyth in 1955 when we went on to record our first Scottish cup win. I was there, still at primary school, my auntie was in charge of issueing Alexanders buses to the game and they had to come from depots all over central Scotland. Sixty seven in all including quite a few double deckers, at a guess around 3000 travelling fans. About our total home gates for a season nowadays. How things have changed.

Ask your delegate, he was present at the meeting.

How many angels can stand on the head of a pin? This is that sort of argument.

What sort of attendances are you getting at North Region games?