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Oh please, oh please, oh please... My link Here is the full team list for Pro Evolution Soccer 2013. Notable changes: Motherwell replace Rangers.

Sorry, that reply was courtesy of the father-in-law's cat. Not my cat you understand, he's quite erudite.

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Then let me just say, in this time of great rejoicing and goodwill, Happy Hogswatch!

Was it called Binky?

What about Makepeace?

Don't fall for that line...

As a Motherwell fan I am positively tumescent at the though of our Champions League adventure this year. However if the result of all this instiutional corruption and gerrymandering is having all the teams punted our of Europe by UEFA then so be it. That's what you get for not playing by the rules. Fat Boy Traynor said he's fed up hearing about sporting integrity. You know what? I agree. It's even simpler than that, it's *sport*. If you make decisions based on the 'product' or what's right for 'going forward' then it's not a sport, at best it's an entertainment, at worst it's just plain embarrassing. Well I grew out of Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks a long time ago, and I can grow out of fixed Scottish football too.

How dare you sully the good name of Detective Inspector Jack Regan by comparing him with that man. Now if you'll excuse me I'm just going to polish of the bottle if whisky in the desk drawer before heading off down the strip club to meet my snout. I bloody love The Sweeney.

*speechless*

My apologies, I can't remember who said it, but a few days ago someone posted that the next few days was going to see a torrent of propaganda aimed at getting Sevco 5088 into division one at least, and the SPL if at all possible. Well it seems they were correct, we've had a torrent of scare stories from the MSM aimed at terrifying us all into believing that without Sevco 5088 then armageddon is here. I *hope* that I'm right when I say, keep the faith it's all a bluff, because if it's not then I've just lost one of the loves of my life: Motherwell FC and Scottish football in general. Vote them back into the SPL or division one and that's it, you won't see me again. That's not a threat, it's a statement of fact said with a heavy, but resolute heart.

It's the Gaelic sock puppets surely?

Well I don't know about you, but I for one would definitely stay at home for an Andrei Tarkovsky retrospective. Unless it was the chance to see Sevco 5088's junior debut. I might go along for a bit of an old gloat in that case.

An Ephemeris on Pie and Bovril, this really is the thread that keeps on giving!

Chic and Fat Boy Slim have shown themselves to be true Dinosaurs in all of this. Their days are gone, no more easy pickings from the table of David Murray and no more 'exclusives' on Rangers latest wunderkid target that are merely a work of fiction to please the Uruk-Hai. Their resistance to a rapidly changing environment will see them dwindle to extinction, oblivious to the transformation going on all around them. Your days are over gentlemen. That bright light in the sky isn't the good old days about to return, it the asteroid that's going to wipe you out. And on a personal note, might I please add: Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. Love, The Diddies

It was £4.7m a game, from 2013-2014 it will be £6.6m How much?!

They bloody better not! ;-)

Almost all of the fellow Well fans that I know are strongly against Zombie Rangers rising from the grave. If we vote them back in then forget it, I won't be back to another SPL match and I will not be investing in the Well Society either. I'd put the increase in season tickets down to the combination of an upward trend recently and the utter delirium of a Champions League place.

The joys of working at a University. I think this thread is classed as anthropological research. That and the gift that just keeps giving, just when to think the story can't get any funnier...

Just the iPhone, and that's not even got enough juice in it to kill what's left of zombie Rangers. My other excuse is that I have a 6 week old son, so I currently have the intellectual capabilities of a whelk.

Bugger. In my defence, I was in the bath when I typed that.

For the first time ever I've actually found my exile to Cambridge to be pleasing. There is not a peep down here about the goings on at Sevco, the silence is blissful. No DR droning on about how we need Rangers or Scotland will collapse into a singularity, no exclusives on Ally's war chest or how Pele is to undergo rejuvenation so he can play for his beloved Rangers in their time of need. All I have is the Radio Scotland podcasts ('mon The Spence) and this wonderful thread to keep me going. Of course now I have to put up with the fact that after squeaking a draw against The Ukraine, England are now certainties to win Euro 2012. That's what they said on ITV so it must be true.

1971: when I popped onto the planet. Actually I didn't pop, I came out the sunroof.

Though it pains me to agree with an Accies fan*, you are spot on with this. If we cannot balance the books without Rangers then we deserve everything we get. This is a sport. The business side only exists to support the sport, not the other way about. Without the sport then all you have is an utterly terrible business that is a very poor way of making money. If no Rangers means we struggle financially and end up a smaller club, then so be it. Even if that means relegation. Hell I'll always have my Champions League memories. I agree with Continental Drifter, if Rangers are voted back into the SPL then forget it, I won't be back and I won't be sending in my cheque to join The Well Society. What's the point when the game is rigged? Since I'm stuck down in England then I'll just make the most of it and carry on following Man City. Hell after a few lean years since I first started following them in 1979 things seem to have taken a turn for the better recently. *Actually that's not strictly true, I am rather enjoying this diddy love-in.

At the risk of coming over all geeky, with regard to the acceptance of the CVA at amounts of 4-6p in the pound can I bring your attention to Game Theory, in particular the Ultimatum Game. As an example, two people are given £1000. It is up to one person to decide how to split that. The second person can either accept what's given to them -in which case the money is shared as per the first person's decision, or turn it down - in which case both parties get nothing. Now if the first person offers a 99% / 1% split, then pure logic states that the second person will accept this. After all getting £10 is better than nothing, even if the other person is getting £990. The thing is, in real life people don’t do that. They see the offer as derisory, and would rather accept nothing. People like things to be fair, and if they don't perceive what is going on as being fair, they are prepared to suffer in order to punish those they see as the source of the unfairness. Now the acceptable split varies, but has been measured at up to 60:40 being rejected. Add to this, the other, manifold, areas of injustice perceived surrounding this particular case and there is not really a very compelling case to accept the CVA. Now I know we are really with corporations and not individuals, but businesses are far from rational entities either, as I'm sure we've all witnessed recently. If you are interested: http://www.altruists.org/ideas/economics/behavioral/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimatum_game http://www.gametheorystrategies.com/2011/08/01/when-would-you-turn-down-free-money/ My more gut instinct is this: Rangers are dead, they've run out of money, they've run out of options and they've even managed to run out of the goodwill of others. All of this circus at the moment is because no one person or body wants to be seen as the one to deliver the coup-de-grace and put them out of their misery.