parsforlife

The CVA for the club is conditional on the the purchase of EEP, the bid is a joint bid and BDO and KPMG have been working closely together. And the distribution is meant to be 0p with creditors able to claim up to £800.

It will be purchased by pars united. It will involve most of the debt being written off. I imagine if the cva is successful we will find out alot more of the details of the offer over the coming days/weeks.

At a guess Probably about 6ish, vote isn't til 3 and creditors apparently have til 5 to cast their vote.

I can imagine a lot of ranting and roaring and demanding to see the other bid, where you imagine/hope jackson will tell them to GTF by telling them the other bid is unviable, they will reluctantly accept I think. Wonder if there will be another yorkston hundle? Can imagine him talking somebody into voting no before himself voting yes in order to make them the bad guy. It will be interesting to see what the fans in the meeting have to say, and if they can resist the urge to tear into them. I'm nervous as hell but I'm edging towards a good result.

Wallace giving it the big team stuff on the official site.

Is Belfast different from every other city then? Doesn't have a main area where everyone goes to shop, get pissed etc?Should have clarified , I mean having all OO/loyalist marches same day, and all republican marches another, meaning it can't be the same people every week marching in different towns. Doubt we'd be able to police having both sides marching at the same time.

I'm not going to pretend I have much of a clue what area is what side , if they are marching needlessly near/ in loyalist areas then that should be stopped. Is there not a road they can march down in the city Centre towards a park or a square where they can do there thing for a few hours a leave? Same for the OO. That's what I really don't understand it's not like anything new is being said, I disagree with banning the marches completely , but they should be told they can have one march , once a year. I did suspect someone would find some diddly republican marches, but its not really comparable to the OO, you've given 2 examples, in different areas, compared to 57 in one that this thread was started for. There must be close on triple figures in Scotland, and for what? It would make far more sense to have only a few. Bussing in people to boost numbers is used by both sides, to try and look bigger. The right to show your political beliefs is important, but until the debate changes then it should be restricted to yearly, 1 march per area, preferably on the same day to prevent bussing in.

You haven't really understood our situation in the slightest.

I put trade in front of debts for a reason, the debt due to masterton and individuals(mainly ex-directors) would not have been payed, or at least not for a long time, but those debts had no repayment terms or interest. I can't remember exactly but I think the other debts were somewhere around 500k. Which we have shown ourselves capable of raising that(counting pre-admin fundraising). We could have maybe paid off a reasonable chunk of that, and had the rest paid off on a re-payment plan that would take a couple of years, would the creditors have been happy with that NO, but they would eventually get all there money. The more aggressive creditors such as HMRC would have needed to have been paid up immediately, but a lot of smaller businesses would have accepted it, a lot of them were used to the way masterton did business but didn't want to damage the club and/or their business by taking it to the courts. The situation was recoverable just about at that point, under new owners. Your right in saying we were destined for admin under masterton but a new board would have had a chance. It would have been better if he left years ago, but even with all that went before if he went back then we would have had a chance. Doesn't matter anyway, we are where we are , in admin and desperate that his final act saves rather than kills the club. I don't expect an apology but it would be the right thing to do, but he doesn't base his life on right and wrong, he bases it on how fat he can make his wallet.

The one for the terrorists who killed themselves of course will be condemned, but it does have a nice ring to it, celebrating the useless ones, I know it's not the way it's intended, but the parade should be a good way to laugh at the attitudes of some. The other one I'm not too sure about, clearly it's a republican march , which may needlessly bring up tensions but from that article it appears they are turning up ,marching a singular route and pissing off again, or at least that being the plan. They may be fannys but they have a right to march, if the OO only marched one route, once a year it would be alot better, and I could understand it more. They could still make their point but the disruption and fanning of flames wouldn't be so prevalent, and could more easily be avoided by those that want nothing to do with it. The fact i haven't heard of any Irish republican marches in Scotland helps as well. Rather than the ridiculous amount of OO marches in Scotland.

The irony is if he had come "clean" in October, told us the deficit and handed over the club to The pars community, or pars united as it has transpired into, i believe we could have avoided admin, we would still have had a trail of pissed off creditiors, and maybe not been able to pay the players on time, but they sure as hell wouldn't have been given 20 % and told that they're lucky, they would have been informed and paid up ASAP.We could have made it to the summer before going to the bare bones and paying our (trade) debts in full over a few years. But he didn't, he couldn't let his daughters go out and earn an honest wage, he couldn't let the books be looked at properly and show up his questionable dealings, he couldn't admit he'd fucked up so badly, and he still can't apologise, you have one final chance on tuesday mr masterton, don't waste it.

A politician standing up for a banker, I for one am shocked.

Grant228 wrote: There was a little confusion over weather it was a one or two year deal he got. If it was two and Jeffries doesn't think he's up to it what do you do? Try and see if he will leave without a pay-off? Maybe he'd agree but the fact he's come here for what you'd expect to be little wages suggests he wants any chance he can get to be a full-time player, the other alternative would be to send him out on loan, but his style of play would mean he would spend more time being kicked up and down the pitch by 3rd division/ junior players than he would actually playing, and the club would get little if any payment from whoever hes loaned to so he is better staying here. If it was only a year deal, and he's now on a monthly deal then JJ must think he's good enough at least as a squad player, which IMO he probably is. Could do with abit more game time tho. Poet of the Macabre wrote: The bond/ points deduction comes in if no CVA is agreed before the start of the season or it's overturned by appeal not if we are still in admin besides if I understand correctly it would be impossible to be out of admin til at least the end of August,possibly later by legal timings, the one I know of for example is that creditors have 28 days to appeal a CVA vote.

I'd give him an hour or so on Wednesday and give him a deal if he plays as well as he did on Saturday. I'd expect a six month deal would be the best thing to do, but it would initially be a month long deal anyway so he'd get more of a chance from there. On that thought will it after the CVA we can offer longer term deals or will it be till we exit admin fully? Dundee for example took over 3 months after there CVA to exit admin, so if similar to us we won't be able to offer longer term deals until November so there be no point in offering a deal till January.

Well that means we need a striker to complete Jeffries wish list, I'd hope to add an other player on top of that, either a winger or a striker.

Actually one of the only fife derbies that all-ticket would make sense for. I was even expecting there to be a need to give a few days where season ticket holders would get priority, before general sale.

We are very vulnerable at set pieces, and that can't continue if we want to avoid having to score an extra goal every game to make up for it. Jeffries isn't stupid and I'd expect him to be working a lot on them tho.

I'm not a massive fan of cricket, but it seems to me England arn't even playing that well, but australia are contriving to beat themselves, they'd be as well after hitting 30 or so turning round and smashing the stumps. They've been risky with the review system, and in trying to squeeze an extra run here and there. Test cricket isn't exactly known for rewarding risk takers.

Katboy wrote: Your calling the situation completely wrong, in 5 years time we will probably have over 50% of games played on plastic,give it 10 and grass will be a minority.In terms of how players feel there is probably a significant difference between a 35 year old and a 20 year old, quite simply there is a generation of players that have trained throughout winter on 3G (or worse) since they have been very young, they are very used to artificial surfaces. It doesn't bother them and we aren't far from artificial surfaces being as good or better than a grass pitch, we are probably at the stage that during the winter months playing and training on 3G is a better option.

FFC 1876 wrote: I don't remember too much about him tbh, but I seem to remember him as quite quick and he was forced out wide quite often when he played( I believe he prefers playing as a striker). Nothing to make me desperate to keep him, but nothing to make me glad to get rid either.ETA: there were a few kenny era signings that I was keen to get rid of so , not bad not great at that time probably made him a decent enough player for us at that time.

Well, i reckon Buffon will want to see out his career at somewhere quieter , oh wait he's over 21. In all honesty I don't expect much, but he played at this level only a couple of months ago and wasn't rated. But its a position that experience is very much the key so finding a good u21 keeper would have been a massive struggle. It's more the fact he's on loan that worries me, there is nothing to suggest he is better than Hrivnak at the moment and loan players tend to be automatic starters.

Not a signing to fill me with confidence especially with id being a loan id expect him to be 1st choice. he isn't rated by either partick or Albion rovers fans but the only time I've seen him was his 20 spell against us where he did nothing. Can't remember the score that day, apparently it wasn't very good. That said I will back him all the way. Hopefully he takes his opertunity.

Not exactly a good week to be hoping for rain is it.

LongTimeLurker wrote: Pointing out awkward truths is one thing, supporting very similar things that "your side" are doing is where the hypocrisy and bigotry start to display themselves.Using your example, a secular schooling system and pointing out that politions don't want it for political reasons would be a positive thing. Wanting rid of catholic schools but wanting religious observance(of a strictly prodesdent nature I'm sure) to remain in "non-Dom" schools is absolutely a negative. When one of your more positive policy's is so blatantly born out of bigotry it's easy to notice the OO are a despicable organisation. LongTimeLurker wrote: Stereotyping should be avoided,I agree, but you can judge an individual for being a member of the OO and group them together, hell they've done that part for you. If you stand as a group, you get attacked as a group.

I suppose in computing terms it would be version 3.5. I thought the SPL always kept the "subject to board approval" line