O'Kelly Isley III
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Two years or more will be dandy.... with every week that passes the Brexit tide goes further out and only the fanatics are left.There needs to be a change of sorts in the deal for the speaker to allow it, technically - the legislation hasn’t been used since 1943, but it seems that’s because people know it won’t fly, or the Speaker has a quiet word in their ear, rather than anything else. Not sure May has time for any wording changes from the EU, who are quite clearly fed-up of her at this stage so I’m not sure where a change will come from. She may as well try to force it into Parliament though and give the speaker a decision to make.
Twitter noises suggest the ERG are split on the issue, and the DUP may be willing to at least listen. May is threatening a two-year extension so if it’s a direct choice between the two..
As for May's deal, it is horrendous and should be savaged as such - ditto the whole Brexit concept. Those who voted for it will one day thank the rest of us.0 -
Hello Old Scrotum, are you there ?That is one helluva post for a dreich Wednesday night, and either there is some bootleg Doom Bar doing the rounds (geddit ?), or there is some substance to this.
If these are FACTS as you say, is the Board of Directors of DFC aware of them ?0 -
May is now running on fumes, her cabinet authority shredded, and I'm finding it difficult to contemplate her managing to get her deal across the line. Surely blind dogma and party loyalty must hit the buffers at some time soon.
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Exactly what Carol Cadwalladr of The Guardian was tweeting earlier. Anyone who still thinks that Brexit being an attempted right-wing coup is nought but a fevered notion should maybe think on.Aaron Banks as well.0 -
That is one helluva post for a dreich Wednesday night, and either there is some bootleg Doom Bar doing the rounds (geddit ?), or there is some substance to this.Ok. For those of you who think I'm a drunken old sot who spouts a pile of shite what follows is not for you. If, however, you are prepared to let me give you some FACTS then read on although I am merely the messenger, not the piano player.
The question of how much it would cost to "buy out" Brabco was asked (by someone I know) a few weeks past. At that stage he was quoted a minimum price - although the figure he had previously suggested to me he would be prepared to invest was UP TO three times that amount (don't tell Brabco).
An approach by him was made today with the intention of talking to the mysterious Brabco over the Easter weekend. He was told that he should "move quicker than that" as Brabco have "other fish that they want to fry".
Now, read into that last quote what you will. To me it sounds like Brabco are willing to off-load the club at a major loss and I cannot get that well-known car-park owner Neil Rankine out of my mind.
Make of the above what you wish, but may my Doom Bar turn sour if anything I have written is false.
61 years of watching Dumbarton may have driven me mad, but I wouldn't take the p**s out of any Sons supporter on a subject as important as this.
If these are FACTS as you say, is the Board of Directors of DFC aware of them ?0 -
In the middle of this crisis, there is a huge element of black comedy in the fact that the 'natural party of Government' is digging itself further into a hole almost on an hourly basis.
Any moment now we can expect Andrea Leadsom to produce a tumbler and the Scrabble letters, enquiring 'Are you there Mrs Thatcher ?'
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41 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:
The scale of last night’s defeat is significant. If May offers her deal a third time, and that can’t be ruled out if the EU27 are perceived as being difficult over an extension, then it is likely that it would still be defeated.
A two month extension achieves nothing; the only thing that could happen in that timescale is Parliament agreeing to revoke Article 50 and that is unlikely. I hope the EU refuse to grant any extension without a clear plan being offered.
Whilst I agree entirely, the danger with that is that it feeds in further to the narrative already being successfully peddled that the current maelstrom is due to the EU's intransigence and unreasonable behaviour. At the very least the EU should ensure that there are no maverick comments or suggestions which can be seized upon, and they present the case for an orderly outcome in a calm and reasoned manner.
Having said that, I listened last night to the DUP still suggesting that, contrary to all evidence, an alternative deal can still be won - bampots, one and all.
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Holy f**k, here we are again this morning with the deep-thinking folk of Bolton making a bold and blindly simplistic bid for the title of Brexit Central. Nine people interviewed and broadcast by Jane McCubbin and every one a rabid Brexiteer.You should start listening to the Today programme instead of just looking at the headlines on the website.
Then cut to Brexitdorm for another dollop of spittle-flecked bile..... not an alternative viewpoint anywhere, WTF is going on at BBC television ?0 -
It is indeed, and I'm all for that even if I don't always agree, but I really prefer them to be reasonably informed.It's All About Opinions
But it seems that the BBC editors are incapable of finding, or perhaps more accurately broadcasting, any supporter of Brexit who doesn't come across as a lobotomised Danny Dyer.
Worse than that, these 'innits' are seldom ever challenged on their views - maybe a wise course of interviewing. I would comment on the Remain mob, but they seem noticeable only by their absence on the BBC.0 -
Can anyone explain why the BBC is now producing vox pops with woefully ill-educated members of the great British public on a daily basis ?
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Yep, and if I hear another plummy retired English voice on Reporting Scotland demanding that 'they just get in with it' I'll put my boot through the telly.The entire country.....including many Scots.....are guilty of a collective mindfart. It's stunning just how many people UK-wide are happy to be led by the hand into the abyss of Brexit.
In decades to come, historians will look back on this period in history and use it as a classic example of how a populist socio-econmic experiment could fool millions.1 -
No, the full thing is about gaining power to enact that manifesto, and you simply won't achieve that if said manifesto doesn't appeal to enough of the electorate.The full thing is about offering a left wing manifesto. Being in a position to offer that to a the largest possible proportion of the public in a general election is more important than winning the day on whatever battleground the media are choosing in the short term.
But wait, I'm actually wrong there, it's even more than that. It also involves inspiring a broad enough range of people to form a consensus to deliver power, and forming a team which inspires confidence.
For you, taking part seems to be more important than winning. Politics and its effects on peoples' lives is too important for that sort of self-indulgence.0 -
Aye, I saw that, and whilst I don't condone bombs anywhere I'm struggling to understand why the IRA would countenance targeting Glasgow - it doesn't add up.I see the packages being sent London and Glasgow have been claimed by someone stating they are the IRA, worrying times ahead with the Irish situation.0 -
2 hours ago, Granny Danger said:
If May’s Brexit deal gets past I can see many Labour Party members letting their memberships lapse and many Labour voters staying home at the next election. Such people will feel let badly down by Corbyn.
Would that really matter to Corbyn and his camp followers ? He strikes me as a guy who would happily see Labour become the East Stirling of UK politics rather than temper his own ideological purity.
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14 hours ago, Detournement said:
Lots of people on the left want to leave the EU.
And in the context of the UK's future replace it with what exactly ?
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If ever there was a time for politicians to put the country's interests before party allegiances then it is now. A crazed Theresa May has almost driven the bus over the cliff and it's now time the adults took over. Request an extension from the EU and put May's deal to the electorate along with No Deal and Remain options. ( Yes I know the headbangers would go crazy, with the Leave vote risking a split, but these are effectively the three choices).
Every last MP would do well to consider that if they shove May's deal over the line then it might generate some positive headlines in the scarecrow press but it would be a truly dire outcome.
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If anyone's under any misapprehension under how potentially disastrous Brexit is likely to be for the people of the UK then they need only listen to the rhetoric coming on an almost hourly basis from the American ambassador to the UK, the billionaire Woody Johnson.
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Anyway, with relegation now averted we can turn to other matters.
Hard on the heels of Hazza and Meghan becoming Earl and Countess of Dumbarton, blow me if the old Baked Bean hasn't just made Prince Ted and Sophie the Earl and Countess of Forfar.
Isn't this interest in Scottish League Division One by the House of Windsor just marvellous ?4 -
This is getting less a case for the Men In Grey Suits and more a job for The Men In White Coats.
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Indeed, but since then only someone living in a cave on Rockall would be unaware of the lies, duplicity, wild promises of the Leave campaign never mind Cambridge Analytica, Arron Banks, the mounting job losses and shambolic political attempts at leaving the EU.Remain were ahead in the polls before the 2016 campaign started. Meant heehaw.
In other words a lot has altered since 2016.0 -
Oh yes it would - you expect Swindon for example to repeat the idiocy ?I'm not so sure that would be the outcome.0 -
Aye, I notice the right-wing papers are attempting a hard sell that a growing number of the electorate are moving towards a No Deal.The Brexiteers are shitting themselves; they know the tide has turned against them and a new vote would be Remain.
Apart from the fact that there is almost certainly no firm impartial evidence to support this, it's indicative of the desperation setting in and confirms that Telegraph, The Mail and The Express will throw the propaganda kitchen sink in the coming days.
Expect The Express to run with a cut-out and keep Spitfire this Tuesday [emoji927]0 -
May, the ERG and the DUP are now desperately taking the piss; in the face of all evidence and reason they are playing the democratic deficit card.Forecasts indicating another heavy defeat for May's deal on Tuesday - probably well into 3 figures.
My hope is that they will revoke A50 - not just delay it. It should be kicked into touch for at least 5 years with the promise then of another referendum which would hopefully shut the brexiteers up for a while. That would give business some certainty and lets face it, the best deal we have right now is the one we are in at the moment. Anything else would be a recipe for varying degrees of chaos.
If there is an extension I hope the EU makes it conditional on a further public vote but my real fear is that THEIR bottle crashes in the final days and May gets to push her shite deal across the line.0 -
Just been watching the 10 O'clock BBC News - please, FFS someone put a hard border around Grimsby, and quickly.
What is it about fishing ports and thickos ?1
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