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  1. 13 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

    I've just realised Eyemouth finishing on -3pts in 2018-19 was of course under the original conferences, effectively at Premier Division level, not in First Division.

    First Division record low is -1pt by (guess who) Eyemouth in 2004-05... so Vale need 1 win to avoid that.

    At least going from -6pts to -3pts from last season means they've shown some improvement :whistle

  2. 1 minute ago, cowdenbeath said:

    Didn't know they had changed their whole side.

    I didn't know for sure until I checked. They've been working through a fixture backlog so it seemed like a good chance.

    They've just gone Tues-Thurs-Saturday with Wednesday around the corner.

  3. 13 minutes ago, cowdenbeath said:

    That Gretna score shows how poor the standard of the south must be given Star can still win it.

    I think everyone knows the standard ain't great, but a minor cup game when you're going for a league title is hardly a priority.

    Winning on Wednesday against Wigtown & Bladnoch gives them the edge in the title race, but still means going away to their title rival Creetown in a game they can't afford to lose.

  4. 5 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

    Surely going to 16-16-16-11 if Broxburn go up is the sensible thing to do as that would match this season - otherwise you'd have a 28 game Second Division and 33 game Third Division...

    Don't think it can be 16-16-16-11. It's either 4 down all the way or 4 up all the way depending on a deficit or surplus from the LL Play-off.

    Broxburn go up its 16-16-15-11

    SoS/WoS go up it'd be 16-16-15-12.

  5. 42 minutes ago, newcastle broon said:

    As much as I don't like B teams especially playing in the Lowland League I'm surprised this didn't go through..

    They'd have been starting at the very bottom of the pyramid.

    The EoSFL committee must have their reasons (anybody know) as far as I know they've never refused B teams before. 

     

    Was it the committee? I thought there was an SGM to vote on them.

     

  6. 9 hours ago, Arthurlie1981 said:

    In regards to cups, I agree it does feel like you’re punished for being successful

    This is often the focus when talking about cup runs. That its the successful club that's being negatively impacted.

    Which in this case from a Premier point of view would be Darvel getting their season extended.

    But in order to do that, there's two other clubs forced into extending their seasons through no fault of their own.

     

  7. 3 minutes ago, Vanderbilt said:

    Comparing the English pyramid which has automatic relegation spots from the League.

    Thanks for making that point.

    The Scottish pyramid is now 10 years old.

    The English pyramid had plenty of teething problems in the first 10 years and beyond. It didn't just magically come together the way it is now.

     

  8. 1 minute ago, Arthurlie1981 said:

    2. Why are we playing the WOS Cup final this weekend. You know that you have a date to finish the league so why not wait until after then.

    With SCC and SJC having end of season dates prioritised. I'm going to guess there's a worry of a conflict in participants dragging things out.  Can't remember which one but didn't a recent SJC have a team idle for close to a month?

    Its one of those things where the SCC and SJC status quo undercuts the WoSFL in many respects. The League takes a cut from both the League Cup and Strathclyde Cup. Because of the SJC status as a Scottish Cup qualifier the Strathclyde Cup is a poor imitation to what it could be. The League Cup playing 3rd fiddle.

  9. 18 minutes ago, Lynchmob11 said:

    The WOS team are not scheduled to play until Tuesday 21st May in the play offs.

    League could be extended until Wednesday the 15th of May in line with Darvels final game still giving sufficient time for all play off scenarios to be decided.

     

    46 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

    ... but if there isn't a West participant it becomes 2 leg playoff EOSL v SOSL whose 1st leg is 3 days before that, in D&G rather than Broxburn, and not going to a penalty shootout if ends drawn.

    As pointed out by HJ the first fixture differs depending on if its a 2 team playoff or a 3 team playoff. These have the potential to be the biggest games of the year for the teams involved and want to get tickets shifted and hospitality sorted sooner than later. Not do a late scramble because the West couldn't gets its finger out to finish the season on time.

  10. 8 minutes ago, jimbaxters said:

    That's what happens when a club has success. It's difficult for you to understand, understandably.

    Its what happens when cups are prioritised over league fixtures. I know there was a complaint from some last year where midweek fixtures weren't arranged the week of cup games so that could be the focus.

    Going to assume that's been the case again.

  11. 38 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

    Things that didn't happen thread for this horse shite.

    2018 with the mass of clubs left to the EoS, SFA membership applications were frozen and only opened up again in October.

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    At that point floodlights were rumoured as an upcoming change but were not part of 2018 criteria and 2019 criteria hadn't been published yet. Wouldn't come out until December which is when some clubs started to get their audits.

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    So yeah, there were a number of clubs that were caught out short notice on their initial audits. Things would rumble on into May/June? As there were something like 6 clubs that ticked all the boxes but floodlights. Bonnyrigg getting to install them summer 2019 but still gain promotion to the Lowland League.

  12. Just now, To B or not B said:

    The SFA couldn’t have been seen to be pre-judging the decision of the licensing committee, so plans had to be in place on the chance Buckie were approved.

    March 31st was the deadline for waivers, and it wasn't granted. If you go by the SPFL spokesperson Buckie never even bothered applying.

    The point of that is to avoid situations like this.

  13. 44 minutes ago, To B or not B said:

    EK only got approved at the license committee yesterday, so Buckie had until then to sort it out, then they could have been approved at the same time. I think the SFA have been generous in giving them to the last minute to sort it, Buckie didn’t, it’s on them.

    While the spirit of it might be nice, I don't think I agree.

    Plans have been made. Money taken.

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    Everyone going through the motions. Only to cancel days before is poor.

     

  14. 41 minutes ago, Nightmare said:

    I thought that Caledonian Braves took a fan poll (yeah, that joke writes itself) and based off the results of that, voted against the B teams.

    It sticks out in my mind because I’m sure people were surprised that they voted this way, with everyone just assuming they would choose to take the B team cash. Happy to be proven wrong, but that’s my recollection of it.

    I think that was a different vote, the one on 19 teams. After they had originally okay'd Celtic and Rangers to continue. Only for Hearts to apply as well.

    17/04/2023

    https://www.caledonianbraves.com/news/fans-vote-on-b-team-inclusion

    They then announced on how they voted 'No' 18/04/2023

    https://www.caledonianbraves.com/news/club-statement-b-teams-in-slfl

     

    This most recent vote they never went public on how they voted 18/12/2023.

    https://www.caledonianbraves.com/news/vote-on-the-inclusion-of-b-teams

     

  15. 10 minutes ago, Shanner said:

    the junior game contained a larger variety of teams than the HL (which is basically a division) so I'm not sure it's fair to characterize this as a one-size-fits-all Juniors Bad thing.

    And the 3 Regions usually imposed ground standards for their top division. Just as the WoSFL does now.

    Yet none of them did so with any teeth to be meaningful.

  16. 3 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said:

    There is no TV deal so no cash from that.  The B teams money is roughly two thirds to the clubs and one third to the league.  The league then meets its running costs, pays for footballs for the clubs, pays for the indemnity insurances required by the clubs, pays half the match officials expenses (not fees) from their share 

    I think the mention of a TV deal was just a joke about the original proposal about B team benefits back in 2021.

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  17. 28 minutes ago, annan4eva said:

    It’s quoted that Buckie are among the Highland league teams with an aversion to promotion? If thats the case and their “ performance “ in the play offs reflect that fact, questions need to be asked ( I’m trying to be careful on my use of words here )

    People still say Brora didn't want promotion in 2015.

    Won their semi-final

    Won the 1st leg of the final

    Go down 1-0 at half-time in the 2nd leg, tying it up 1-1. Minutes into the 2nd half they score to take the lead again. Get a player sent off for a 2nd yellow and eventually lose out.

    Can only assume somebody made a fortune at the bookies for the amount of effort they put in.

  18. 4 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

    Scotland isn't a backwater full of skint folks. Plenty of folk will have saved up for tickets and I imagine quite a few will just fire it on a credit card and pay it off over a while.

    For a show that was only announced this month might be more burning through savings or firing it on the credit card.

  19. 17 minutes ago, An Absolute Imposter said:

    That's a valid point, there is a strong chance of them dropping down the divisions, not what they had in mind a decade ago.

    Maybe they'll take the huff and just dissappear. 

    We live in hope.

    In a way I could see it as a greater chance of existing longer term. One of the reasons they've groundhopped to Alloa, Cumbernauld, and now Dumbarton is to keep up with SPFL/Conference/increasing licensing standards.

    Takeaway those kind ambitions and just focus on Entry level licensing. It leaves more options open to them.

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