The Left Wing

That tickled me. The Captain to a T.

Ha,i see what you did there. I'll ignore the slight sarcasm,as there is a relevent point there. We won't have a scheduled CSA meetin until maybe a month, six weeks into a new season. However, the GB Were also given answers on Celtics position and this was enough to urge their members to buy season books. I don't think a u-turn would help what is already a fractious relationship between the club & the GB. Athough i wasn't the one that said "played a blinder", i was happy we never said anything and just to wait on the vote. Maybe we should get some clarity from the club,but if this new set-up is just piss and wind, i'm happy with original position.

There is no OF. Hate is such a harsh term.

I reckon Davis, Fleck, McGregor & Bocanegra.

Were these two not minor players in the Blue Knights? They see a chance to get something on the cheap. Utter scumbags. There will probably be a few more of these vultures hovering. Roll on the double contracts, and hopefully jail for some.

I keep reading on P&B ( i have read every post in this thread) that a CVA will not/cannot get pushed through and there seems to be various plausible theories for this. However, this is the ONLY place i find this point of view. Every paper or other media, every person i see interviewed, tells me the opposite. I know what i would like to happen but i'm starting to think it will be a CVA, not enough evidence of double contracts, practically debt free Rainjurs in the SPL. Sadly, nothing to see here, move along.

I have had my form in, but it's an automatic renewal that we cancel if we dont want it. I could still cancel my direct debit, money doesn't come off until 22nd. I honestly dont know what to do. I enjoy my footie & on a Saturday when we don't have a game, i still find a match to go to, at Dumbarton, Pollok, or like today, a juvenile cup final. Anywhere i fancy. But i want to watch my own team & this whole charade leaves a bad taste. My brothers and my dad are ordinary decent fans, not bigots, but they support Rangers. My eldest brother is disgusted by the actions of his club and will not be back, my other brother might be the same. Can we afford to lose good footy fans in this country? I dont believe we can. That doesn't mean i won't be happy to see tax frauds & sporting cheats brought to book & hopefully buried.

You sir, are deluded. No hint at anything of the sort in my season ticket letter. If anything we have been drip fed the opposite sentiment. If there actually is a vote & Cetic vote yes, they wont escape the wrath of our own fans. If Celtic vote no and it's an overall yes, then diddy clubs will say that we had an easy vote because we knew which way it would go. This is complete nonsense of course, but will be trotted out by the diddy alliance to deflect from other clubs cowardice. As for Peter Lawwell (the best executive we have ever had), he is simply an employee. Unlike other clubs, whose chairmen are the owners, an it is they who attend meetings and vote, Lawwell will have to vote the way his employer instruct him. I still get the impression, with bits and pieces we get from within the club, we are looking most likely to vote NO!!

Erm,.... No, that is not what i was doing. It was just a poor attempt at humour. Your righteous offence-taking is funnier, though.

Jeez, that's what i do...... You must just charge 'mates rates', eh?

So you are assuming he is a loyalist just because he is a rangers fan? Well done.

Well put. Blaming Celtic ( and Lawwell in particular) is just the easy option, but not with any idea or evidence of Celtic's stance yet.

Smallteam, smallminded, generalising bigot!

You,sir, compound my worry that my young son is leaning toward supporting St Mirren.I only know two fans of that club and thay are complete cocks, but you seem to actually believe the crap you troll with. You are the worst kind of small minded, small team bigot. Same old tired arguments and shoddy generalisations. Troll on!

Silly me, i thought you were implying that the vote would be done in such a way that meant Celtic could vote NO, knowing that the vote wouldn't actually matter. I can see now that only a fud would think that, as nobody knows how the voting will be done. Apologies.

Thats right, well done. Get the diddy excuses in early. If all else fails & your chairmen are cowards, blame someone else.

in this case, i couldn't give a toss even if my club did lose out. I am only interested in the fans that have said time and time again, we dont want these crap kick off times, Give us back Saturday football and fook the tv money.

There is no possible way of knowing how this vote would work. Would it be a secret ballot, would Celtic vote first, last, or somewhere in the middle? we just dont know. I hope (actually, i think) Celtic will vote NO. For other clubs to say that we only voted no because we knew enough would vote a newco straight back in, is just bollocks. That is just an easy, smallminded arguement that smaller clubs will trot out to save face. If i am wrong and we have a transparent vote and Celtic vote YES, i will be pretty angry myself, but if we do the right thing ,then to question why we have done the right thing would be stupid. As for the split on tv money that you mention, of course an even split is fair. That's just as long as every other club plays the same amount of games at shitty kick off times every other Sunday. Christ, i would gladly give up all the tv money just to play all our games at 3 o'clock on a Saturday. VOTE NO

Same old pish,Captain. If it wasn't tired & boring, it might be slightly amusing. Just slighty,mind.

And just what makes me a bigot? And why would supporting my local club make me a glory hunter?

So when Maldonado won the Spanish GP at the weekend, when Hamilton had to start at the back after cheating, this somehow tainted the victory? You sir, are a cock of the highest order. Do you want some salt for that great big chip you carry around?

And therein lies the 'Diddy Clause'. Where all the diddy teams say Celtic voted NO because they knew everyone else would vote yes, thereby appeasing Celtic fans. If you do the right thing, do your reasons matter? As for Mr Lawwell's vote, he is simply an employee and frontperson for the board. He will do as he is instructed.

Can't agree with the latter part of this. You are not allowing for the fact we have a clueless manager and for the most part, a pretty shit team & we wil not spend to improve if we are winning the league easily.

Well said! I can assure you, this guy is a really odious human being. It's a scary thought that he could gain any position that could attract a following.