killiecanary

As KIllie fans there is a wee ditty we sing to a certain team just down the 77 from us that goes along the lines of 'Ayr Utd won f**k all and never will' With the necessary name change, I would love to hear diddy fans in div 3 singing it to the newest club in Scottish football! Just to make sure that they can't forget it like!

'And Smith must score...!' Useless cnut couldnt even get that right His fuckwitted statement that 'Rangers are a massive institution' just underlines again what a cock this man is Shall we try this again? Rangers were a bigger than average football club, granted Rangers no longer exist Sevco are a new company, and will be a new club Sevco therefore need to start where every other new club starts - the bottom rung of the professional ladder (at best) Sevco currently have approximately 5 players (guesstimate - I readily admit I have no idea how many kids they might have) Nobody has any idea if Sevco will make it through the first difficult financial year Nobody knows how many 'Rangers' fans will support Sevco Nobody knows how successful Sevco might be - or might not Sevco are not therefore a massive institution Sevco are no different to every other club in SFL3 - regardless of potential size or potential future success Finally, if Sevco do come out of this, and their fanbase reduces to the small proportion of genuine football fans that we know do exist on the fringes of the sectarian lunacy, I hope that their true fans enjoy a taste of what football actually should be about - enjoyable days out, banter (not evil bigoted hate-filled invective, but genuine intelligent light-hearted joking), the chance to spend time with mates and finally, and most-importnantly, a true sense of anticipation about the game and the result. If New Rangers can achieve this, and Scottish football reorganises to stop us playing the same teams every fortnight, and their genuine fans get their voice back and our football clubs start playing young, cheap Scottish players then this Summer might just turn out to be the saviour of Scottish football, far from its Armageddon. Oh, and just one more time... f**k OFF SMITH

As a Norwich fan I really wish neither of those things were true!

Generally what happens when a person is made bankrupt they are refused the opportunity to benefit from such loans again. They have to start again in order to build up a decent record of managing their funds.If they can keep their nose clean for a period of some years they may eventually be allowed the same access as others... I wonder...does that process ring any bells with you at the moment?

Excuse me, but would you be a Daily Record journalist by any chance? Just struggling to think of any other way an educational sub-normal like you might get hold of a computer keyboard...

Ah...but doesn't Ayrshire football need a strong KIllie? No? Ok then.

No 8 - you've achieved the impossible...I actually feel sorry for a 'The Rangers' fan! I hope that you enjoy the football, camaraderie and laughs on the journey from SFL 3 I remember when KIllie went down to the bottom tier, and I went to most away games, it was huge fun, and getting away days at grounds I had never been to before actually made following KIllie much more of a pleasure than it had been in a long time. As an exiled KIllie fan who goes to matches with my 7 year old, I would also say that away games are much more fun as father-son time... Finally I think you are right to 'walk away' from ibrox...the club you followed is now dead and being picked over by the shadiest bunch of crooks imaginable....again! In a couple of years you might have a new team to follow and the sectarian bigot element might have disappeared into whichever hole they crawled from in the first place, and a newco under proper management might even be enjoying its football and you can look people in the eye as you attempt to fairly win football matches. Let's hope so at least

Burley you utter fanny And as for Norwich going down to the Championship you can just do one. (although not sure how I feel about NCFC signing Whittaker...actually yes I am...I have a very bad feeling about this)

The only one that matters ya tosspot...our local one! Celtic may well have an international brand (and if that's the sort of thing that gets you excited then you're already halfway to being a Cockwomble) but football clubs are really supposed to be about their community...But if it's more important to you that some poor sod in south Korea has heard of the mighty Celtic then you just jog right along... Of course we all know what result lies at the end of chasing that particular rainbow don't we????

The very fact that PnB was referred to explicitly several times in off the ball and sportsound makes this ever clearer.Was also good to have a PnB representative as a guest on the radio too...maybe we actually are the people!!!! I also loved Turnbulls explicit references to Diddy clubs in his interview!

Ok...I am no defender of Celtic fans usually god knows, but if we are trying to maintain a stance that we are determined to see the other cheek punished for their misdeeds and not just out of sheer malice then I struggle to see them in the same light. As far as I know they've not broken the law, cheated the taxman, cheated their way to loads of trophies or threatened to boycott the rest of the English speaking world because they are the people or any other such nonsense. So although I can continue to find them every bit as distasteful I suppose I should try to do so on another thread so as to keep the focus of this one as clear as we can? Can we concentrate on making sure the blue orcs get their just desserts from this whole sham first? Then we can turn our new found diddy solidarity on the green cheek...

I would love to see that name, and with it all the sectarian, unpleasant, bigoted, arrogant connotations that go with it, consigned to the cesspit it belongs in.But despite the fact that I had kind of assumed at the outset that they would not be able to use the name without some clear changes or additions (Govan Rangers?) I haven't seen it suggested anywhere that they will be forced to ditch it. What are to chances realistically and who would force it through? Isn't the trading name of the company different to the name of the club?

I have a question which no doubt has been answered but it's too difficult to search. Did Rangers actually PAY any of their fines? If not, then the ONLY punishment has been the points deduction. I assumed not - that's why I didn't include it in my rant. I always thought it was daft to fine a club who have no way of paying the fine. Surely a hollow punishment if ever there was one?

I don't have the pre-requisite old-firm apologist tendencies to qualify anyway. And I don't like lamb

I got very fed up with that tit Alexander - who was irritating enough to be an MP even if he wasn't. First sticking up for Cockwomble - Just a decent guy trying his best apparently! Then going on about Rangers punishment. FFS is it really that hard to get into their skulls? In simple sentences then (yet again I know); Rangers were punished by a ten point penalty for going into admin as per the rule book. Rangers then went bust and are in the process of being wound up, liquidated, extinguished, rubbed oot A new company is being formed. If that new company wants to have a football team to play at Ibrox, fine. If that company wants to have players in blue jerseys, fine. If that company wants to have the word Rangers in their title, annoying, but fine But that company needs to find a league to play in. They need to apply to the SFL (at the highest...even that application would involve expediency and hasty rewriting of rules) There is no rule in the SFL that allows for them to jump into SFL 1. None. Clyde have made that even clearer with their excellently worded release So they need to start again from the beginning, whatever they are called, whoever play for them, wherever they play That is not punishment, that is PROCESS. And to be fair, even Rangers fans seem to be overwhelmingly understanding this. Just fuckit journalists who cannot compute!

Yep...that's how I see the next few weeks too But on any rational (ha!) interpretation of the situation should still be that Rangers are liquidated, a new phoenix company needs to start over from scratch, should still not be in the SPL, would still struggle to attract top players. Its still down to the SPL chairmen to hold their nerve...are you listening Mr Johnston?

How long will it be before they then stipulate that their involvement is conditional on RFC12 being kept in the SPL with no sanctions? And then Saint Walter's involvement will really drive the media to demand that this happens, hence more pressure on the chairmen for the vote - whenever that is now. Cue The Cockwomble's arrival on the scene! This is like Groundhog Day

Now that Green and his cronies have successfully managed to get the club liquidated and the debts suddenly become someone else's problem, Rangers 2012 surely becomes a more attractive proposition? Regardless of whatever punishment gets handed down, there has to be some potential there for a new owner. Imagine the conversation...'We only now need someone to figurehead us so that the morons fans will welcome us with open arms and the players might stay? I sniff a shitty plan from day one Was Wattie not implicated in any EBT wrongdoing?

This is a very good point. With lots still apparently to come out about the extent of the cheating and every chance that an entire squad of professional footballers will walk out to other jobs before the start of the season there has to be a real danger that Govan Disunited might not be in a position to fulfil fixtures until the whole farce has played out. That would cause yet more huge negative impact on the game, whichever division they're in, and would make our game look even more of a joke than it already does...

Or maybe we just won a football match? We know rangers have cheated, so I can kind of understand posters speculating about wherever their scummy tentacles might have reached, but until we start to hear about whatever this 'nuclear' revelation is we are simply adding 2 +2 and getting 1690. Speaking personally i really don't know how I would be able to take any thought that we only stayed up that year because rangers somehow fixed it for us... Mr Johnston unfortunately is a tit. I do not for one second believe that this is for any other reason than that he is a walking mammary and not because he is somehow linked to the great rangers conspiracy.

Always happy to laugh at rangers. But the thread does seem to be turning more and more to posts about reconstruction, life in the spl without rankers, and what our clubs might look like once the scumbags have gone off to the great flute parade in the sky! I'm taking that as a sign that confidence is rising that they might just be about to get what is coming to them after all! I do think our chairman is not being very clever in his comments just now. If the blue bigots do go for a few years then I certainly expect him to have a plan for dealing with whatever cuts in income follow that and not just to moan about it. I'd assume that anyone with any business experience will have heard of contingency planning. If he hasn't done that at least with regard to relegation then he shouldn't be in the job.

I may be wrong but I think the hotel and sports bar actually make a wee profit for the club? Don't get me wrong I'm looking forward to killie having no debt, but we accept that we are a selling club so will need to keep selling players at a profit. Don't ever see that changing and don't mind it tbh No argument that the ground is too big for current fan base, however I do remember when we were getting higher gates than we now do when we were in the lower leagues (we've spent far too much time there to be snobby about any of the clubs in those divisions...apart from a*r of course ) Our gates are really down to the boredom of playing the same team 4 times a year and the general economic situation in killie. A better league, a team of local youngsters holding their own and maybe a wee bit of economic good news and maybe our attendances would go back to being decent. We can but dream!

Tainted imo

Hmmmm...and within the same article it says that Rangers could get in scot free as a newco, could get a CVA agreed but might not, could agree terms with HMRC but haven't yet, Wednesday's meeting could vote on sanctions but might not., Rangers might be in trouble with FIFA, UEFA but might not... Same shite different day...nobody has a clue what is going on, least of all those useless Admin twats... This is a typical Retard article; "Er...we haven't a scooby whits happening but here are a load of slightly connected quotes to make it look like we do" All we can do is keep hoping that natural justice takes it course. I do like the photo of the sun setting over the Gates of Mordor though!