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  1. Because you dont approve of someone's method of expression does not negate them being fans. That's an utterly childish logic. Of course they ate fans you just disagree with them. In that we have punched above our weight historically yes we have but twenty five odd years ago we always qualified for wc and we were winning euro club tourneys. Now today the national team doesn't qualify at all and our best club teams dont get past first round. Until this summer our diddy fans allowed the status quo to hinder chances of improvement but now they have found a voice...this certainly for the best

    This

    further, the concept of what constitutes a 'real' fan has changed many times over the years. for example, once it wasn't deemed essential to go to away matches to express ones fandom and teams in glasgow like partick thistle and clyde would be beneficiaries of getting people who were rangers or celtic to go to thistle or clyde games when celtic or rangers were playing away...

  2. What have Celtic ever done to anyone?

    We'll be the biggest losers out of the **** not existing, financially, and we're willing to take the hit.

    Celtic FC, in their 125th year of unbroken history, have never cheated, never dodged tax, have had every referee against us, some of whom openly boast of having cheated us, and you want rid of us?

    Celtic have been more hard done by out of Scottish football than any other club, we're the victims in this.

    Did your mum craic a bottle over your head when you were born?

  3. goodness fuckity gracious me.........top top scientists would need to fire john brown and gazza around a twelve mile circuit under the alps to smash them into each other at near to the speed of light to get close to the superhypermegaglobalclusterfu** created by the scottish football rain man confederation onanting themselves to death over some bonkers notion of right and wrong. First of all wanting to finacially threaten football clubs to get them to do your bidding seems awfully reminiscent of one of the hysterical claims many are making against the governing bodies.....the smell of hypocrisy is more powerful than susan boyles love cave. Secondly football and cheating....who gives a flying....how many supporters would pass over promotion if one of their players admitted they dived to win a league winning penalty leaving another club consigned to a division they should rightly have won........................ Thirdly why should Rangers go into the third just to placate a noisy minority of electronic warriors...it's impractical, unworkable and frankly just silly. Peace out!

    how dare you besmirch the name of ron burgundy...

  4. todays leggoland...

    WHY RANGERS CANNOT BE KICKED OUT OF SFA

    THE Independent Appellate Tribunal can not decide to throw Rangers out of the Scottish Football Association.

    For if they do, Rangers would be in a strong position to take the whole matter back to the Court of Session and lay it before Lord Glennie again.

    And that could open a can of worms and lead to the complete meltdown of Scottish football, with Scottish Football Association’s increasingly bizarre chief executive, Stewart Regan in the dock.

    Regan should be very careful. If he agrees to meet the erratic Charles Green to attempt to broker some sort of deal for both the SFA and Rangers to save face, the SFA chief executive could well find himself charged with contempt.

    For what the eminent and learned judge, Lord Glennie, sitting amidst the Majesty of Edinburgh’s historic seat of Scots Law, the Court of Session, said was that the sentence had to be sent back to the INDEPENDENT Appellate Tribunal.

    Lord Glennie did not suggest or request that the sentence be sent back to the INDEPENDENT Appellate Tribunal. Lord Glennie ordered that it be sent back to the INDEPENDENT Appelate Tribunal.

    The one chaired by his colleague, another eminent and learned judge, Lord Carloway.

    The difference of course between the Law Lords in this case is that one has the full weight of the Scots Law behind him. That is Lord Glennie. Lord Carloway does not.

    But it is the wording of the INDEPENDENT Appellate Tribunal’s findings, which we must assume came from Lord Carloway’s pen and which were posted as a statement on the official SFA website on 16th May 2012, which is interesting.

    And which I believe leaves that INDEPENDENT Appellate Tribunal effectively snookered when it comes to considering any expulsion of Rangers from the Scottish Football Association.

    The original INDEPENDENT Judicial Tribunal, chaired by the eminent Queen’s Counsel, Gary Allan said – and again we must assume the words are his - that such a sentence was viewed as being too harsh.

    Something the Lord Carloway chaired INDEPENDENT Appellate Tribunal agreed with wholeheartedly.

    Indeed, Lord Carloway’s statement said: “The Disciplinary Tribunal rejected the sentence of either expulsion from the game and termination or suspension of membership of the Scottish FA, which would have had a similar affect.

    “The Disciplinary Tribunal rejected this as too severe and in this the Appellate Tribunal agreed.

    “The Appellate Tribunal observed that serious consideration was given by the Disciplinary Tribunal to imposing one of the sanctions, which would have had obvious consequences for the survival of the club.”

    So answer me this.

    How can the INDEPENDENT Appellate Tribunal now sentence Rangers to either expulsion from the game and termination or suspension of membership the Scottish FA?

    How can the eminent and learned Lord Carloway now say that when he agreed that Rangers did not deserve to be sentenced to either expulsion or suspension of membership of the Scottish FA, he was wrong?

    That is a tricky one for M’Lud.

    And it is an even trickier one for the increasingly beleaguered looking Stewart Regan.

    What to tell FIFA?

    How about two words. The second of them….OFF!

    The behind the scenes spin on this story would put Shane Warne to shame. But what is the most shameful thing is the lack of a grasp of the facts – or the complete disregard for them - by so many journalists.

    In fact, I believe Lord Glennie has set a trap for Stewart Regan and the Scottish Football Association. It is this.

    Lord Glennie has said that any punishment which the INDEPENDENT Appellate Tribunal imposes on Rangers may prove to be harsher than the transfer ban which he overturned.

    That may tempt some into going for the severe sentence of kicking Rangers out of the SFA and therefore out of world football.

    Surely, however, Lord Carloway will offer wiser counsel? Surely he will see the trap?

    For should the INDEPENDENT Appellate Tribunal, chaired by Lord Carloway, opt for that sentence, they may have to appear before Lord Glennie in the Court of Session to explain their change of mind.

    For Rangers would seem to be perfectly within their rights under Scots Law, to take the matter straight back to the Court of Session.

    What a spectacle that would be. An eminent and learned judge, Lord Carloway, appearing before another eminent and learned judge, Lord Glennie, amidst the Majesty of the Court of Session.

    I imagine jurists, advocates, lawyers and law students would fill the court to witness such a spectacle.

    It would also answer one of the questions FIFA, we are told, have been asking Stewart Regan. Which is, just what is the Court of Session?

    Sepp Blatter and his gang of ne’r do well cronies may just find out.

  5. I'm not contacting FIFA just yet.

    Wee Sepp Blatter might be thinking:-

    'Corrupt Scots?, yeah these African FA's are right, let's abolish Scottish fitba and let the English FA rule over them, Team GB's going ahead thanks to the thicko's at the BOA, so I could sweep all the shite out in a oner'

    Hmm..

    would that outcome not be such a bad thing? I mean if everything turns out to be as corrupt over this affair as we fear, then maybe our provincial setup being absorbed by te FA wouldnt be such a bad thing? no?

  6. Dhavid Bhrent...

    you are not really LMAO are you? you actually have a red face as you type your utterances hoping that something you say will give you some redemption in the eyes of your new found peers. but in actual fact you are digging yourself a hole. id suggest not posting for a week or so, that way you will be that insignificant nobody will remember you and you can weasle back in - no doubt attempting to show some of that new found solidarity between celtic and the diddy teams thats been put about here. if you don't do that you'll just make a bigger and bigger arse of yourself. your choice kiddo

  7. So four out of five fans in the country are either trogs, orcs or have a secret "big team"? Well, here's a thought, an opinion really:

    Any ONE of those Killie fans who I've known getting on buses from the Kadikoi, from the Bickering Bush, from Bellfield, Irvine and beyond, travelling up and down the leagues with the expectation of maybe getting a point or two at Methil, or a good humping at Cappielow, is worth ten of some gloryhunting knuckledragger who couldn't have found ibrox before Murray's Millions arrived, or any green bigot who has spent celtic's so-called "wilderness years" dressed as a green seat.

    The same applies to fans of all other teams outside the Glasgow Cartel - I am proud of each and every one of you. What we are seeing now is not just piss funny for all sorts of reasons (hiya Chic! Hiya Andy (and Andy)!), but is possibly the moment when Scottish Football can start dragging itself out of the bigotry-driven mess it has managed to create in the last few decades. We should be deluging our clubs with communication from supporters' associations, trusts and individuals to explain to the custodians of OUR teams what we expect, what we hope for, and the support they can expect if a fresh wind of integrity can be encouraged in the game. If Killie can add 1500 to our home gate, that means around 30000 extra fans per season. Or, to put it simply, the equivalent of SIX home games against the Ugly Sisters. We don't need EITHER of them sucking the life out of our game.

    The future may well be bright. What it most certainly isn't is orange.

    agreed. looks like the diddy revolution is afoot :)

  8. did you see the post by barcabhoy on rangerstaxcase.com, which you could dismiss as speculation til rangerstaxcase himself gave it the stamp of approval

    barcabhoy said

    Barcabhoy says:

    26/05/2012 at 2:19 am

    Adam doesn't bother me in the slightest. He has absolutely no influence on the outcome of this farce. He can therefore put his view into play any time he likes as far as i'm concerned

    What may be of interest to him, and others, is that the very worst of the offenses committed by Rangers have yet to be properly put into the public domain. In fact they haven't been put there at all.

    They will be and when they are, they will be beyond belief. In fact I had a problem believing it myself initially. At the point of disclosure I very much look forward to reading Adam's efforts to put forward the alternative view.It's not my story so i can't control the disclosure timescale, but when it comes out it will be nuclear

    Just to make this clear, what has still to come out is worse than illegally registering players, is worse than using VAT and PAYE as cash-flow, is worse than deliberately not paying fellow clubs, is worse than deliberately abusing the EBT system

    its much worse……

    My advice to those who know what they have done……don't walk away…….run away as fast as you can,preferably to somewhere without an extradition treaty with the UK……because you know what you have done, and you know that its coming out.

    and rangerstaxcase himself said

    rangerstaxcase says:

    26/05/2012 at 11:20 am

    For those of you excited by Barcabhoy's post, I know what he is talking about, and his post is correct. There is a lot of leg in this story yet.

    a lot of chatter that its connected with

    Celtic Underground ‏@celticrumours

    Gavin Masterton - 18 years later I suppose you'd have been entitled to think you'd got away with it.

    as much as i love that post, its not really saying anything substantive. just that there are far worse things in the pipeline.

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