Wings Over Scotland

This was the interesting bit for me. There has to be 14 days' notice of an SPL meeting to discuss admitting the newco, which means there isn't much time left to beat that 4th July deadline, after which you'd surely think a fan-controlled club would tell Rangers-ish FC to GTF. Many are predicting the newco decision will be taken at the SPL AGM, which isn't until July 16. That leaves us looking like Celtic, Aberdeen, Hibs, Dundee Utd and St Mirren would vote no, which means Rangers go bye-bye.

Actually with a couple of exceptions it was as regular as clockwork - March, April, May, if the currant buns weren't in the running for the league the fans vanished like snow off a dyke. And 15 games over 6 years is almost 1 in 6 of all the home games over that period, and if we were to include everything that was only slightly above - say 12,000 or lower - it'd be around 1 in 4 home games where Ibrox was three-quarters empty. I call that pretty damn regular.

Five minutes searching. All league games at Ibrox: 23 May 1979 Partick Thistle H 1–0 2,000 30 April 1980 Kilmarnock H 1–0 7,655 21 March 1981 Kilmarnock H 2–0 8,488 1 April 1981 Greenock Morton H 4–0 7,000 2 May 1981 Heart of Midlothian H 4–0 9,770 31 March 1982 Airdrieonians H 1–0 8,000 5 May 1982 St. Mirren H 3–0 6,000 8 May 1982 Dundee H 4–0 8,500 11 December 1982 Greenock Morton H 1–1 9,500 5 February 1983 Dundee H 1–1 8,500 23 April 1983 Greenock Morton H 2–0 9,500 30 April 1983 St. Mirren H 4–0 9,321 2 May 1984 Dundee United H 2–2 7,500 2 March 1985 Dumbarton H 3–1 8,424 23 March 1985 Dundee H 1–3 9,954

It's unlikely to be true. If newco Rangers are admitted to the SFA, responsibility for disrepute/dual contracts is likely to be a condition.

You've got the arithmetic backwards. 8 clubs need to vote YES to allow New Rangers in. If five vote No, they're out.

As I understand it it's NOT an application for a vacant share, but a specific application to transfer the one held by Old Rangers to New Rangers. Would only become vacant if that application was rejected.

If so I agree with you, wildly unlikely.

Think you've misunderstood. Suspect the original poster was suggesting that the SPL would still technically have 12 teams, but that all Rangers' fixtures would be forfeited 3-0 under the suspension, hence relegation.

Because they WILL still exist at the time the vote is taken.

Well, to be fair there's little choice as long as the club still exists, which as of this moment it does. The formal process of liquidation won't be completed for a while yet, and the league has to let the other clubs know their fixtures. If Rangers don't get admitted, the names of Dundee or Dunfermline simply get stuck over the top.

Yeah, because top-quality players will be queueing round the block to sign up for a team offering them years of glamour ties against Annan Athletic and East Stirlingshire...

That's a lot of assumptions. 1. New Rangers will struggle to be financially sustainable. Rapid promotion would be far from certain with the players they could afford. 2. Rangers fans are notoriously disloyal in times of strife. Crowds dipped regularly below 10,000 in the early 80s, and they were still in the Premier Division and reaching cup finals etc then. Just for the most obvious couple.

If the rumours about the proposed deal are true, I think it could be unanimous (except for possibly Celtic). If the conditions are a change from 11-1 voting and shared gate receipts, the Other 10 get all the benefits of Rangers being kicked out (because the New Rangers will be financially crippled and uncompetitive), plus they get to keep the Sky deal and they get a bunch of extra money from sharing the receipts of games at Ibrox and Parkhead. Celtic get screwed somewhat by that deal, but (a) boo fucking hoo - they've been screwing the Other 10 for 13 years, and (b) they'd be outvoted.

You can, because it's null and void if D&P promised things they had no authority to deliver. If they're not the liquidators, they can't dictate any terms of liquidation, end of.

Eh? Where are you getting that from? The newco doesn't exist yet, and any attempt to transfer assets to it in the meantime would be spectacularly illegal (counts as "putting assets beyond reach of creditors").

See my liquidation FAQ: http://wingsland.podgamer.com/rangers-liquidation-knowns-and-unknowns/ When Rangers are liquidated, the players' contracts are terminated and they're free agents. They can sign for any club they want (including, incidentally, a newco Rangers), with no transfer fee payable.

Rangers liquidation FAQ: http://wingsland.podgamer.com/rangers-liquidation-knowns-and-unknowns/ Any comments/errors?

Yes.

HMRC are already owed enough to veto the CVA by themselves, regardless of the BTC outcome.

It clearly CAN'T be achieved, though - nobody with even a passing acquaintance with their marbles thinks the CVA will be approved. Even if you think there's a chance it can, D&P's contingency planning seems to be a clear breach of their responsibilities - if the CVA fails, Rangers' assets must be worth more than £5.5m, so the plan to sell them to Green for that figure is a huge failure in their duties. It would result in a return of zero for the creditors, so a fire sale would likely be a better option, and in any event can't possibly be a worse one.

Don't be so sure about that. As far as FIFA is concerned the ball is currently in the SFA's court (or more fittingly, penalty area), and they'll be watching the SFA very closely. If its sanctions against Rangers don't satisfy FIFA, then and only then will the ban hammer start to be waved around menacingly. FIFA's history is to take the involvement of civil-law courts VERY seriously, such as in this amusingly-coincidental example: http://www.footy-boots.com/chile-could-lose-world-cup-place-8374/ Note the actual direct quote from FIFA, not just media speculation.