Crazy_Frog

Well enlighten me then beermonkey! It appears you are all experts on our situation, I think it's only fair as a fellow fan of Rangers (well, we all are, right?) I should be allowed to know! Alas however it will have to wait for another time, I have to leave! I promise I will respond point by point when I do return though DhenBhoy, Henrik, did yeez read this? Say good bye at least! Here's to another 54 titles for Rangers as fans yourselves, I know you will join me. God bless them.

Umbongo, so you agree that the full club didn't know, and in no way was Rangers "cheating" ? Again, I must ask, what did we gain by cheating? We had a dodgy owner who had nae money, bless his cotton socks, pray tell how we get to cheating? Also, there is still talk of titles being stripped based on hee haw, I am interested in that. Remembering before you respond there has been no verdict either way, no evidence to suggest anything was done to gain any sort of sporting advantage, no matter how many stories you make up on your own. lodmoorhill - what exactly is pish about it? See, I don't understand these posts, at least give me something! Tell me how to better myself and reach your levels of intellectual debate! beermonkey - I see you are adopting the dhenboy tactic of "let's think of the smartest way to deflect the attention way, that may make me appear smart in the eyes of these strangers on this forum, in fact yes, i'm sure of it, i know let's compare him to a 6 year old, 6 year olds aren't smart!" , although I must admit, DhenBhoy is better at it, i'm sorry mate Henrik - I didny' forget you, what's wrong with this Bennett fellow then? Just another Rangers fan i take it? Aren't you 1 too though?

DhenBhoy pray tell me, in detail mind, what facts have i omitted? I..like the rest of you, know very very little about the in's and out's of Rangers business. Now whilst I fully admit this, you people seem to pretend that you in fact DO know about it, so this is where we are stuck! Wunfellaff, Chucky? Asset stripping? I shall add this to the fairtale book of magic and wizards to go along with "yeez ur gawn intae administration2, yeez wul be deed". We will be minted when that hits the shelves!

Oh DhenBhoy, it is almost like watching a young Johan Cruyff in action, majestic! You managed to type a post there that was simply a "I'm not responding, i'm too clever" post! Like I said!! Earlier!! Remember? You are really good I shall run along like the good wee fella I am and leave you big boys to it! I have been beaten, and beaten well! Steelman i'm still not sure how Craig Whyte not paying PAYE and VAT results in Rangers, the football club, CHEATING last season. Exactly what did we cheat? What did we gain from cheating? And of course I expect the banter involved, if you read my first post on this forum I said that I have had some good back and forth laughs about this situation. However, the creepy bitterness and obsession shown by fans on here is past that. We are talking true crackpot levels. Fruit loops to a man

beermonkey well I am glad you agree with the pish I spout at least, that's something Henrik! You read it! I knew you'd be back. Bennett you say? My fellow bear from earlier in the thread? We are the same people are we? This could be good

It's a strange world Wunfellaff, but like I said, I choose not to use the quotes I am assuming you don't consider this 1 too long. See, we can help each other, you let know know the perfect amount to post that allows the users of this forum to read them without losing their attention. (Oh and don't say "none for you", ya cheeky wee comedian ye! )

No beermonkey, I would like to hear it directly from you. I have taken the time to ask what exactly it is you don't agree with, surely you owe me the same courtesy by responding? Henrik, is this 1 long?? Let me know

DhenBoy and Henrik, as i am such a nice guy, I am going to copy and paste all of my posts so far and send you them personally. I would consider it an honour for you to reply to each point xxx

beermonkey - please go into full detail of why I am making a prize c**t of myself and I will give you my response as soon as I can

DhenBoy - it's an art, you sir, have mastered the art of "how to look smart on t'internet" Henrik - Don't worry, i'm going soon, i'll leave ye be, i'm only pulling yer plunger pal! I must admit to being a tad immature now and then myself, going for the easy targets

Noo' Henrik we know that's a lie! It's about Rangers, you read it alright! You canny' fool me my friend!

Steelman, so your point is that Rangers cheated by deliberately not paying PAYE and VAT? So, the full club was aware of this deliberate non payment? And who told you on the grapevine this was deliberate? That the full club tried to cheat by doing this? However I do thank you for referring to it as "the company that owned Rangers", you will agree with me then that talk of zombie clubs, new clubs, new history, things like that is just a tad..erm, ridiculous? And maybe even a bit bitter?

Ah Henrik I am OFFENDED by that wee fib of yours! I fully understand the whole post may be a bit too long for your attention span, but I did put a wee small section in speficially for my favourite Non-Celtic supporting fan of Rangers! Pah! DhenBhoy - honestly my friend, see when you do t'internet responses like that, you know the one we spoke about earlier "i'm way too smart to read that, in fact that response is so horrific I simply am far too intellectual to respond, as you can see by my response" it really does make you look as smart as you hope everyone reading this thinks you are. No...seriously! Impressive stuff Wunfellaff - How is me not using the quote function incomprehensible to you? What part of my points don't you comprehend that you feel the quote function would have helped you? My offer stands, I will personally explain each point you are struggling with. Also, the new company name in charge of the club is not in administration so why would we recieve a 10 point deduction? The club is still the club, the company that owns it goes into administration, liquidation and all other legal jibbery-stuff that all of you people kid on you know about but don't really have the foggiest. Yes, all that 'stuff'! I'm impressed by the amount of Rangers threads on this forum actually, I mis-judged it. I am enjoying it, full of like-minded people who all love discussing the greatest club in the world. My cup of tea, my cup of tea indeed!

I've contacted the Oxford English Dictionary to see if they can come up with a new word to describe Celtic and indeed the rest of the S"P"L's fans obsession with us, as I feel "obsessed" just isn't a strong enough word. This is frightening levels, absolutely frightening. But again I really am enjoying this! Anyway, as Ned mentioned earlier maybe I should use the quoting system on here, but I choose not to. A few of you do seem a wee bit "obsessed" by how people use this forum, i.e the team selection, how to quote etc, is there a rule or something I am missing? You all tell me how you wish for me to use this forum technically and I will try and do so to help you sleep better at night, I understand this is becoming an important issue. Anyway, where were we! Captain Sensible (we have that, and "ReasonableGeezer", all we are missing is "GenuinelyNotOffendedByMuch" and we will have a pantomime on our hands!) So Rangers being in debt is an isolated incident in football and "proof" of our cheating? I see! My favourite of the lot though is "Shocking referee decisions". Well knock me over with a feather! I will leave this 1 up to you actually, if you wish me to, I shall post up on here an almighty list of "Shocking referee decisions" that have gone against us, and as i'm such a nice fellow I will only do the recent seasons. You also claim we are let back into the football leagues with "relatively little punishment". Lordy Lordy Lordy. So, going into administration, thus a 10 point deduction (effectively killing off our title challenge), getting fined, starting in the lowest possible league, being forced to accept an illegal player registration embargo is not enough for you? Bearing in mind we aren't actually "guilty" of any of this fantasy world "cheating" you lot obsess over (there's that word again). WBR - The fact is, as I alluded to above, Rangers are not guilty of any illegal activity re: EBT schemes. No verdict has been announced on that and certainly no evidence suggests we have "cheated" using dual contracts. Again, I must ask, are you privvy to the information and verdicts that no one else in Scotland is? What are we "guilty" of? Childish and pathetic talk of stripping titles by some on here Emmm yeez ur guilty get thame titles aff yeez, we knew we wur e best. Also, why is the changing of a company name such an important issue to you? A football club is a football club, is it now extremely important in your daily goings on that you NEED it confirmed that Rangers are a brand new club with a brand new history starting from 2012? Well, officially, we are still the same old Rangers. It pains I know, but this is the way it is. No one on here knows the in's and out's of this situation, pretending to discuss about them as if you know what you are talking about will only further serve to show your bitterness and desperation. Trying to find loopholes in company names, legal issues etc like you lot are some lawyers is again just ruled by bitterness, obsession and jealousy. No amount of "Sevco" jibes will change it unfortunately, but feel free to continue, I like them too. Having said that I have looked about and noticed a right few of them that do said jibes are a bit young so we will let them off. Wunfellaff - You said I type incomprehensible. Ok, whilst we both know that you said this to make yourself sound a wee bit smart and distance yourself from any sort of debate, how about telling me what it is I am telling you that you can't comprehend? I will personally take time out to clear up any confusion you have and explain my points as easy-to-read as possible buddy Henrik's tongue - i've saved you for last, you are my favourite of the troops. The Celtic fan that never discusses Celtic and spends his days discussing Rangers. I am glad you agree we are the biggest team in the land, and even from the 3rd division, aw' the way doon' here, we still remain the biggest club, biggest story and the main talking point amongst every fan in the country! You know that more than anyone! One last request, is it possible to bring in the other fans of other clubs that haven't yet posted in this thread (an extremely doubtful request I admit)? I am curious to see everyone's opinion on Rangers F.C Apologies if I missed anyone! No harm meant Please, continue your discussions on Rangers.

Reasonable Geezer I just cannot cope with such rapier wit! You edited my post you sly wee comedian! To quote your fellow intellectual buddy on here..... PMSL