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Nope. I just hate anti-Semitic c***s like you. I don't mind people who disagree with Israel's actions. C***s like you hate the Jews as a people, and quite frankly you are just scum.
You sure do post shite wee man. What is it that i posted that makes you think i hate anyone? Quote it or f**k off back under that rock from which you crawled out from under.
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I wouldn't say this to anyone else on this forum, but could you just f*** off you anti-Semitic c***.
Someone hates the truth!
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Corporate corruption, yes. Some of the rocket's more hatstand posting, not so much.
As for the wife-beating episode, for me that was more to see how long they could attack someone while idolising their own wee "domestic" specialist. Also to point out how life isn't all black and white. Passed the time, and laid bare a wee bit of hypocrisy. Totally off topic, as you say. What can I say - it's been slow...
Next you'll be telling us that David Murray was not an International Corporate businessman before his debt-ridden empire crumbled. Or that Craig Whyte didn't owe a few million pounds to a Russian oligarch previous to the deal between him and Murray.
The Truth is you prefer the petty squabbling off-topic shite that you and the amigo's post here to discussions on global corruption when there is little in the way of new on-topic news to be discussed.
That's fine with me, i will drop going off-topic now. However, your personal attacks have been noted, expect me to respond in kind whenever i feel it is appropriate to do so.
THE CRAIG WHYTE SHORT STORY AND A CONVERSATION IN MONACO By Giovanni Di Stefano and Tiina Paivarinta - LINK
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What people within the IRA think of Gerry Adams is really neither here nor there. There were links between the paramilitary organisations assuming the IRA tag or variants thereof and the political activities of Sinn Fein in the 60s to the present day. That was the purpose for which the analogy was drawn.
What the IRA was prior to the establishment of the Irish Free state is really neither here nor there. It wasn't the Irish Free State or the Republic of Ireland's sovereign institutions that controlled the actions of the republican paramilitary groups during the Troubles. They were not a state actor.
Ever heard of 'False Flags'?
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Yes they could. There is nothing a) in electoral law or b) the single transferable vote system, to prevent a political party winning a majority of the seats at the Stormont Assembly.
Apart from voters.
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Is it twice or three times that there has been official pogroms against jews within these Isles?
Not sure I'm only aware of their expulsion in 1290 from England and that they were not permitted re-entry until Cromwell took over with the help of the wealthy Dutch-Jewish bankers that funded him. They were expelled from most European nations at some time during their history due to their "USURY" bankrupting entire nations, causing famines, etc.
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Put another way, the UVF could set up a political party in Northern Ireland and win an absolute majority at Stormont, it doesn't mean they become the British (or Northern Irish) Army.
No they couldn't.
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Delete as applicable.
It appears that the contents of my posts hit some nerves. Pleasing.
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"Britain's full of racists and xenophobes, so blaming 'the Jews' for Palestine is okay"
Glad we've cleared that one up.
If that is true it has much in common with Israel.
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Would you also be OK with someone saying 'the Muslims' were responsible for 9/11?
People in the UK did and still do, every minute of every day. It doesn't concern me.
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Sinn Fein is to do with the IRA in what way? They split at the same time as the Provos...............
Are you P&B's resident expert on the history of N.Ire's paramilitary goups? Just asking!
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Fucks sake. I'm out.
Wise decision.
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Rocket, if you want to promulgate your conspiracy bollox, I'm sure there's a place for it. That place is not here. When even respectable posters who follow the same team as you are telling you you're a cock-end, maybe it's time to look in the mirror.
Just saying, likes.
"respectable posters"
you really are a "cock end" WKR, the orcs are correct in the opinions that they have of you. If you think that i care what anyone else thinks about world corruption just because they have a common interest you are sadly deluded. Now, Let me get this straight. In regards to your "conspiracy bollox"... Are you saying that men in high positions of power are not capable of criminal activity and telling lies to the general public? Are you really that naive?
The media, the government, the International bankers, Hollywood, and academia are all part of the same incestuous complex. The media is part of the conspiracy, so why would you expect them to tell you the truth?
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AIG - they sold financial investments to punters, claiming they were good investments. Secretly though, AIG knew they were terrible investments that would blow up and that their punters would absolutely, certainly lose all their money. But that didn't bother AIG, because they'd been paid a huge amount of money beforehand by a billionaire to set up the scam, and both they and the billionaire made a fortune off it.
Off-topic, but did you know that AIG was founded by an OSS (predecessor to CIA) Operative in Shanghai in 1919 with its branches across China, and in Hong Kong, Hanoi, Saigon, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur and the Philippines. It only transferred its company headquarters to New York City in 1949 just before the Commie takeover in China? And in regards to its recent history it isn't only US citizens who are now paying for the recent $130BILLION in bail-outs that it and many others were 'given' by 'corrupt' governments in cahoots with 'the banksters'. An old American showman of around the mid 1800's is credited with the phrase "There's a sucker born every minute", today the poor b*****ds are born every second...they are us!
Whatever AIG was doing in 1949 surely isn't related to what it did in 2008, since it was bought over and re-bought-over again and again and again in the intervening period.
You can take your weird Illuminati theories elsewhere, as I've said before. Your bullshit would be better confined to the Lizardmen (Who May Or May Not Be Jewish Geezers, Although Of Course That's Coincidental) Ruling The World forum, and the sooner P&B's admins chase you off in that direction, the better, if you ask me. You give me the boke.
You're tummy is easily upset rat, i suggest that you and any others who have such problems make appointments to speak to your doctors to get those problems sorted.
You were the first to go off-topic by bringing AIG into the discussion!
Would you care to elaborate on what you consider to be bullshit about my reply?
LINK to who 'controls' American International Group.
If you don't want anyone to know such facts i suggest that you don't provoke people into posting such facts by posting off-topic.
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Isn't it the case that these payments were not in any way related to the actual activity of playing football? Was there a direct correlation between payments and performance?
There would have been had the players not received their payments, "interest free loans", that accounted for half of their wages during their time at the club.
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No, not remotely. Israel is not run by "the Jews".
Nobody said that it was run by "the Jews". Are you drunk?!
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This fatally misunderstands the nature of modern fraud, IMO. The sums involved these days are so large, they can't be transferred in brown envelopes or even in suitcases - they have to be moved electronically.
Take the example of AIG - they sold financial investments to punters, claiming they were good investments. Secretly though, AIG knew they were terrible investments that would blow up and that their punters would absolutely, certainly lose all their money. But that didn't bother AIG, because they'd been paid a huge amount of money beforehand by a billionaire to set up the scam, and both they and the billionaire made a fortune off it.
And the best part is, from AIG's perspective - it's dubious whether that was illegal, because financiers had already paid American politicians to change the laws to make it unclear whether it's legal or not.
There were no brown envelopes - nobody snuck out the back door with money in their boots, and yet surely it was a clear case of theft and fraud where hugely rich geezers stole millions upon millions of pounds. If you tell somebody you're selling them gold but actually sell them lead, that's fraud.
And so. The entire English-speaking world knows what a "loan" is. Rangers' case is entirely based on the idea that the word "loan" does not mean "loan", in the sense that normal humans understand it.
And yet, lots of people walked out of Ibrox with millions of pounds in their back pockets. David Murray himself pocketed, what, one million? Two million? Three? He didn't put it in brown envelopes, which gives the public a clear, physical image of theft. And yet, he took your money, in vast sums. He still has it - he's living off it, right now!
How handy would the money Murray trousered have been, when the creditors came calling? How handy would it be now, when your team is in the outer shitter of nowhere, when you really need it?
I guess I'm trying to say, fraud in high finance is incredibly complicated for a reason. People like us can easily understand suitcases full of money being shipped out the back door of Paulie's Chicken Shack, or whatever.
We find it very difficult to understand tax laws and financial instruments and exemptions and so on. And that's not an accident! It's not complicated because that's the way it is or because we're too thick to understand it.
It's deliberately like that - it's deliberately difficult to understand, because that's how criminals get away with fraud these days - they deliberately make it very, very hard to grasp. That's how your former owner was able to cash out of Rangers with a small personal fortune in the bank, while your club was left stuck up Skitter Street without a pair of slippers. It's theft and fraud, just the same as shoplifting or nicking out of the till.
And here we are. David Murray is rich - your club's fucked. I'm happy with that situation, but it surprises me that you lot are.
Off-topic, but did you know that AIG was founded by an OSS (predecessor to CIA) Operative in Shanghai in 1919 with its branches across China, and in Hong Kong, Hanoi, Saigon, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur and the Philippines. It only transferred its company headquarters to New York City in 1949 just before the Commie takeover in China? And in regards to its recent history it isn't only US citizens who are now paying for the recent $130BILLION in bail-outs that it and many others were 'given' by 'corrupt' governments in cahoots with 'the banksters'. An old American showman of around the mid 1800's is credited with the phrase "There's a sucker born every minute", today the poor b*****ds are born every second...they are us!
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You say that like it's relevant. It's not "The Jews" =/= "The state of Israel which identifies as a Jewish state".
It is to those who govern Israel, is it not?!
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It conflates Jews with Israelis.
It is absolutely encompassed within the meaning of xenophobia.
"Founded in 1948, Israel is the world's only Jewish State" - THE JEWISH VIRTUAL LIBRARY
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Aye but FFS just give me a precis and hold the link. A succinct summary would please us all.
It's best to provide as much info, links, sources, etc as possible for the Tedi's and Ben's here.
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I'm always happy to give a view. I'm even slightly in agreement with George Galloway's Early Day Motion in the Commons:
That's the first time i have seen or heard of that!
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You may feel free to quote screeds and do it twice. I didn't mention registration.
But you did mention SPL Rules.
Rangers are under investigation over two specific rules. First, SPL rule D9.3 states all payments made to players for playing football must be registered.
It says: "No player may receive any payment of any description from or on behalf of a club in respect of that player's participation in Association Football or in an activity connected with Association Football, other than in reimbursement of expenses actually incurred or to be actually incurred in playing or training for that Club, unless such payment is made in accordance with a Contract of Service between that Club and the Player concerned."
The second rule under scrutiny is D1.13 which states that all contracts must be lodged with the governing body.
It says: "A club must, as a condition of registration and for a Player to be eligible to play in official matches, deliver the executed originals of all contracts of service and amendments and/or extensions to contracts of service and all other agreements providing for payment, other than for reimbursement of expenses actually incurred, between that club and player, to the secretary, within fourteen days of such contract of service or other agreement being entered into, amended and/or, as the case may be, extended."
Based on the allegations made, two facts have to be established.
Firstly to find Rangers breached rules throughout the three time periods given, it must be proven that the club had a duty to record EBT payments to the SPL as part of documentation on payments made for playing activities.
It must also be proven these were not submitted to the SPL, although this has been broadly conceded already in the evidence given at tribunal.
Secondly, the commission will have to prove ineligible players were fielded by Rangers between May 2005 and May 2011.
The same facts must be proven as in the first allegation, but SPL rules prior to May 2005 did not state players were not correctly registered if said documentation was not provided.
In either case, titles could still be withdrawn from the club, as this is an accepted sanction for any breach of league rules.
LINK.
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Shades, yes of course they were payments. Of course, too, players expected them as payment. This is unarguable. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows this and I have no idea why Bears shy away from it.
Did it break the rules, though? HMRC says not. Did it break SPL rules? Who knows. My own thesis (as I've said before) is that The SPL's rules werent up to the mark and I am sure Lord NS will state this.
Maybe not though
The registering of payments to players is the SFA's area not SPL. Registration Procedures - LINK.
2 March 2012
Rangers stand accused of failing to properly register players after a former director revealed secretive payments had been consistently excluded from contracts lodged with the SFA.
The embattled Ibrox club are awaiting the outcome of the First Tier Tax Tribunal which will determine the legality or otherwise of Employee Benefit Trusts (EBTs).
Regardless of whether Rangers are hit with an additional bill of £49million from the so-called 'big tax case', it appears such payments were kept 'off the books' - in direct contravention of SFA registration rules.
LINK.
Former Ibrox director Hugh Adam, who had a 30-year association with the club until 2002, has told Sportsmail that the club's directors were aware of the arrangement - one he believes could have started as early as the mid-1990s.
'They weren't included in the contracts. They definitely weren't. That was the whole point of them,' he said. 'If they'd been included in the contracts, they would have had to have paid tax on them.
'I don't think a lot of the other directors knew an awful lot about it. David Murray kept everything to himself.
'The directors just wanted to sit in the directors' box. That's all. When I was on the board, I knew all about them.
'I just didn't know the details of them. They became accepted. 'The revenue were seriously challenging them at that point when I was a director.
'People never really asked serious questions about them. "It's perfectly legal" was what they thought.
'It wasn't happening in Britain, so had nothing to do with Britain. All the directors heard about them but didn't take them seriously because they didn't appear in the books.'
Adam's revelation suggests a clear breach of the SFA rulebook - and is a potential embarrassment to current SFA president Campbell Ogilvie, who had a 27-year association with Rangers, many of them spent as secretary.
The SFA rule on registration states: 'All payments made to a player relating to his playing activities must be clearly recorded upon the relevant contract and/or agreement.
'No payment for his playing activities may be made to the player through a third party.'
Adam, the man who funded the redevelopment of Ibrox through Rangers pools, believes payments into discretionary trusts may have gone on well before the turn of the millennium.
It's understood the 'big tax case' relates to EBT payments from 2000 until 2009 but, when questioned if he heard of similar payments in the mid- 1990s, Adam confirmed: 'Without having any specialist knowledge, I'm pretty sure.
'People didn't want to know about them. There was a lot of that (EBTs) going on at the time (I was there).
'You knew it was cheating but some of them not only hoped but believed it was above board. 'It's this thing that when something happens it has to have a beginning and an end, but that wasn't the case with the overseas things.
'It was just something that crept up. It was considered important but not crucial. The fans didn't give a damn one way or another. You could argue that they knew about it but didn't think it was important.
'Maybe they never thought it was as much as it really was. And maybe it wasn't. I don't know if you remember radio stations from ships.
'I don't think they were making a fortune but they weren't costing a lot of money, so no one bothered.
'When I was asked for my opinion on the way the club had been run, I said it was quite obvious how it had got into trouble.'They were doing things they shouldn't have been doing.
'They (EBTs) were always regarded in my time as a bit of a joke. They were getting away with it but nobody really thought they'd get away with it forever. '
It would be an offshore trust - almost like a boat. You could dodge your taxes that way. It wasn't something that you picked up the paper and read about. It was one at a time then grew on a gradual basis.
'The players were very naive. Few of them were the Brain of Britain, of course. If they get the money, they don't give a damn where it's coming from.'
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Have you seen one of these side contracts?
Can you show me the wording which proves it is a contract for payment and not just a bit of paper explaining about a loan?
How many beneficiaries were involved in the Rangers EBT scheme?
A total of 111 sub-trusts were set up between 2001-2010 for Rangers directors, players and other staff - along with employees of Murray International Holdings and its subsidiary companies.
A total of 53 Rangers players and staff received side contracts giving undertakings to fund their sub-trusts with cash, according to documents seen by BBC Scotland.
What if Rangers players have received side-letters?
BBC Scotland has also seen evidence, which was submitted to a court, suggesting that 53 Rangers players and staff had side-letters giving undertakings to fund their sub-trusts with cash.
According to the Scottish Football Association's registration rules, payments received by a player solely relating to his playing activities must be fully recorded and declared, otherwise the player has been improperly registered.
If a player is deemed to be improperly registered, the norm is for his team to forfeit any match in which he has participated.
So, could Rangers be stripped of past titles and trophies?
Precedence exists for this kind of rule-breaking and subsequent punishment in football and other sports.
In 1994, Marseilles were found guilty of financial irregularities and a match fixing scandal involving then president Bernard Tapie.
The French club was forcibly relegated to Ligue 1 and lost its 1992-93 Division One title and the right to play in the Champions League in 1993-94, the 1993 European Super Cup and the 1993 Intercontinental Cup.
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Israel And The Palestinians (now with added Iran)
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No disputing that. He appears to have great difficulty reading and understanding plain English and very gullible and naive in his beliefs,
if not he is just a poor troll as is his accomplice 'wee bully fanny'.